You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
I wouldn't go so far as to be labelled a jerk/a**hole. You can remain the prize, have confidence, be outgoing, be ****y, funny, sweet, all at the same time without being a jerk. Once you are labelled as one, it's often very dificult to get out of it.HandyAndy said:Does this work? I always hear about girls saying "I hate boys, theyre *******s!" or "hes a jerk!"
Discuss 8=====D
Yes, it does. But only because jerks and *******s have 2 qualities (among others) that drive women nuts...they are 'challenging' and 'mysterious'. These personality traits attract women like a set of Double D's attract men.HandyAndy said:Does this work? I always hear about girls saying "I hate boys, theyre *******s!" or "hes a jerk!"
Discuss 8=====D
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
I'm Charming said:I think it is simultaneously possible to be a jerk and get treated like an AFC.
I was always this arrogant ******* that didnt care what anyone thought of me but this got me labelled in School as a:
1) Target - Other guys dont like arrogance, it's treated as a threat, and I have had people be physically violent towards me on several occassions because I've told them to f**k off when offered with a proposition of their authority that I didn't like.
My lack of physicality on these issues gave:
2) Loss of social status. If you're not physical then its hard to retain authority, because if you are arrogant and not a strong person in a physical sense then you will take a beating - if you take a beating you are automatically pushed down the ranks of social status.
Which in turn made me appear:
3) Friendless. The more this cycle repeats the more you are considered friendless or low status, you are treated as insecure, Women see you as insecure and vulnerable, you are a jerk but you are simultaneously treated like an AFC because of your lowered social status and lack of physical strength.
4) Loss of mental strength. The more this cycle repeats the weaker you will become mentally weak as well, it's hard to retain confidence unless you know how to fake it - I became a bumbling, long haired **** with a continued determination to look at my shoes, from an originally arrogant, yet confident young man I turned into a weak, insecure, loser. So while arrogance can keep you up there, it can also bring you down.
So I'd say there is a transition period where you can be both - but you will eventually become one or the other, arrogance is not a good quality unless it is backed up by strength of person.
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
What the hell does my post count have to do with this?DarthAngel707 said:Wow Andy 1,755 posts and you don't even know the secrets of the jerk or what makes them so alluring.... This "chicks like bad boys" subject is the most common subject in all of seduction and yet you have to ask this???
Next time you should memorize what you read and let the concepts sink into your skull before asking a question that you have probably already read and has been answered literally around 5,000+ times.
HandyAndy I have been though the EXACT same situation, and it fcked me up a bit for a fairly long time. Looking back I now know where I went wrong. Game goes a lot deeper then the DJ Bible would have you believe. It is a set of guidelines, not a set of concrete rules, and it never should have been called the bible. In real life every one of those rules can and probably will be broken. The thing is you have to have something going for you, or sometimes you just get lucky. When what you described happened to me, I started doubting the DJ Bible, and I wondered if it didn't apply at all in highschool. I still think today that highschool is a bit different, this is just because the environment is different and the main thing is that girls don't have much experience at all. You can probably get away with a lot of AFC things, more depending on how experienced the girl is and how attracted she is to you.Third, I do know why chicks like bad boys, the reason I asked this question is because im here reading all this seduction material, while my nice guy friend lands a girlfriend and he hasnt read one sentence about attracting women, which lead me to believe that high school game is different, which is why I asked this question...
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.