Being a jerk doesnt always work

[KillingTime]

The whole confidence, teasing, humor thing works on pretty much every girl (confidence works on EVERYONE, no doubt about it) But Ive noticed that some of the other stuff discussed on this site seems a bit far-fetched... certain techniques and theories that all girls want to be treated like sh*t etc. stuff like that. I guess it depends on the type of girl your going for but the girls I know will not tolerate being treated like crap... being teased is one thing, but a constant ****y attitude doesn't seem to work well. Now if your just trying to get laid and get as many girls as possible, treating them like crap is the way to go, but if you want actual relationships and more down to earth girls I find that it drives them away. Im guessing that girls that go to clubs and places like that would go for that kind of guy, but me, im not into clubs/partying so I try that on the more casual girls and it's a big turn-off. The guys I know that are going out with good looking girls are definately confident, but they seem to go against many of the rules here. They are NOT jerks towards the girl, they don't purposely ignore her calls to keep her waiting, they don't dress-up all nice, they do make her small gifts every now and then. They appear tough and really "macho" but they don't play any of the games that are mentioned here. So basically what Im asking is if a lot of the stuff here is intended to work better on the "club/partying" type women?

 

[obijuan]

Alot of the posting you'll read here is an example of guys who believe their own hype. If you convince yourself you are the man and hit on a thousand women a day at least one will go out with you. Go with what you know. If you don't want to be a fake pretty boy who's constantly concealing himself from others then don't, it's not necessary and especially if it's not you.

 

[squirrels]

Nothing works ALL THE TIME.

One thing that DOES hold true is that when you're ignoring the girls' calls, acting macho, not buying her crap ALL THE TIME, then you're not doing it because you're a naturally ****y jerk but because you're PANDERING, you're feeding the girl what you THINK, based on SoSuave, that she wants to get from you.

How is this any different than buying her things, driving her around, kissing her ass? You're giving her what you think SHE wants in exchange for what YOU want. (sex, relationship, etc)

Stop viewing your relations with women as some kind of bargaining, barter, or compromise, where you feed them one behavior in expectation of another. Do you do that with your friends? No...you relish the truly random stuff that happens, the surprises, the FUN stuff. You don't take BS from them, but you enjoy the experience. And if they tick you off, you go home.

The greatest fighter is the one who doesn't fear not living. The greatest lover is the one who doesn't fear not loving.

 

[SuperMan_Wuss]

tips, tricks, techniques,,, These are not cookie cutter solutions. everysingle situation is different. you need to adapt and mold this stuff to fit a situation and become a master at it. If you use a technique and you come off as an azzhole, you did something wrong. learn from it, and move on.

 

[CLOONEY]

"Being a jerk doesnt always work"

When will the poor dudes on this site get rid of that misconception that girls want a jerk.

They want a confident, suave, cool, calm and collected guy with a sharp wit. They want to get to know you also and once they do, see your soft, nice, vunerable side that you only display with them. But they dont want to see this side all the time, only on ocassions when you two are alone.

This jerk stuff is a joke. Only hopeless, non worthy girls want a jer.