Naughty Ninja
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Remember to internalize the knowledge that basing your self worth on a woman's ‘acceptance’ is insane. If a man doesn't have self-respect, everything else in his life is in vain. Don't forget it.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Basing your self worth on a woman's 'acceptance' is INSANE.
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
True, but the average acceptance level by the average girl you meet is a good indication of your overall value.
If you go out to a bar and ten girls look at you and none of them smile, you probably didn't look good that night.
If you go out to a bar and ten girls look at you and none of them smile, you probably didn't look good that night.
Wildebeest
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"True, but the average acceptance level by the average girl you meet is a good indication of your overall value.
If you go out to a bar and ten girls look at you and none of them smile, you probably didn't look good that night."
In my opinion, these statements are way too general to mean much or be useful in any way, all it does is sound weak and needy, begging for female validation. Im trying to throw this **** away in my head.
What is average acceptance level, who is the average girl, what is overall value. This terms don't have that much abstract meaning.
Your 'overall' value needs to be independent of environmental forces and based internally. You're saying that I walk around believing im an 8/10, twenty girls dont smile at me, and then I should feel like a 1/10. What happens then? Self fulfilling prophecy. I start acting like a 1/10, and then I become a 1/10. No, im an 8/10 because of my inherent value and die to continued self investment, I will become only more valuable in time, irrespective of how many girls may or may not be on their period, and decide to smile at me.
In theory though, as my inherent value grows, I should get a higher percentage of acceptance ON average. I just dont like this theory for helping me do anything useful...
If you go out to a bar and ten girls look at you and none of them smile, you probably didn't look good that night."
In my opinion, these statements are way too general to mean much or be useful in any way, all it does is sound weak and needy, begging for female validation. Im trying to throw this **** away in my head.
What is average acceptance level, who is the average girl, what is overall value. This terms don't have that much abstract meaning.
Your 'overall' value needs to be independent of environmental forces and based internally. You're saying that I walk around believing im an 8/10, twenty girls dont smile at me, and then I should feel like a 1/10. What happens then? Self fulfilling prophecy. I start acting like a 1/10, and then I become a 1/10. No, im an 8/10 because of my inherent value and die to continued self investment, I will become only more valuable in time, irrespective of how many girls may or may not be on their period, and decide to smile at me.
In theory though, as my inherent value grows, I should get a higher percentage of acceptance ON average. I just dont like this theory for helping me do anything useful...
DonGorgon
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but its also natural because success rates vs failure relates are directly related to the human emotional and mental health state and can affect depression and motivation.. also since mating with females is the human males number one driving force behind most of what he does it makes perfect sense that his self worth be affected by his mating success and frequency.
BUT... often w have other issues and depression that can intact result in a reduced success rate with women thats why its recommended that we stay on the best mental and physical shape we can outside of our sex Chase frame
BUT... often w have other issues and depression that can intact result in a reduced success rate with women thats why its recommended that we stay on the best mental and physical shape we can outside of our sex Chase frame
Mike32ct
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DonGorgon is spot on.
As much as I hate to admit it, it does matter how women perceive us. For a guy to keep getting rejected by women, for months or even years, can REALLY F with your head big time. I know this from experience.
BUT, to optimize your game and improve your success with women, you have to not care what they think of you.
So yeah it matters, but you must block it out of your mind. Otherwise, you will be on a rollercoaster. Cute chick Fs you, so you feel good. Several other chucks reject you, so you feel like a loser. Igetit warned about this. You need a stable self-worth that is independent of what women think.
Plus, to be fair, most of these women don't even know you anyway. You are assuming that her split-second (at MOST) judgement of you is gospel. It isn't.
As much as I hate to admit it, it does matter how women perceive us. For a guy to keep getting rejected by women, for months or even years, can REALLY F with your head big time. I know this from experience.
BUT, to optimize your game and improve your success with women, you have to not care what they think of you.
So yeah it matters, but you must block it out of your mind. Otherwise, you will be on a rollercoaster. Cute chick Fs you, so you feel good. Several other chucks reject you, so you feel like a loser. Igetit warned about this. You need a stable self-worth that is independent of what women think.
Plus, to be fair, most of these women don't even know you anyway. You are assuming that her split-second (at MOST) judgement of you is gospel. It isn't.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Wildebeest
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there are several categories that you may place facts in
those that are true
those that are false
what about other than truth? what about usefulness?
those that are true, and mentally harmful
those that are true, and mentally healthy
those that are false, and mentally harmful
those that are false, and mentally healthy
I know which categories I am going to invest in, do you?
Yes, female criticism through rejection is FEEDBACK that should make you ALTER your behaviour. But should it be taken to affect net SELF WORTH? NO.
It is important to notice the rejection, and release your emotional attachment to it
those that are true
those that are false
what about other than truth? what about usefulness?
those that are true, and mentally harmful
those that are true, and mentally healthy
those that are false, and mentally harmful
those that are false, and mentally healthy
I know which categories I am going to invest in, do you?
Yes, female criticism through rejection is FEEDBACK that should make you ALTER your behaviour. But should it be taken to affect net SELF WORTH? NO.
It is important to notice the rejection, and release your emotional attachment to it