"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Basic Flirting Moves?

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I was reading an article on the SS homepage titled "You Must Initiate Everything With a Woman," and I came across the words "...do the basic flirting moves."

Here's the article: http://www.sosuave.com/rondavid/succeed55.htm

I'm far from an expert in flirting techniques. Hell I don't even know what defines flirting.
I'd like some help breaking it down, not just for me but for everyone who's clueless to how flirting can be used to its full potential.

C+F, kino and teasing are the only things I can think of.

I want to raise two questions about flirting:
1. What did the author mean by "basic flirting moves?"
2. When do you know that your flirting is successful and you're doing the right thing?/When do you know you're doing the wrong thing?

It's probably real basic stuff to you guys who have frequently practiced it, so I expect some helpful feedback.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I'll help, and this is a page from Entropy's ebook but it's the truth

Flirting is breaking rapport in a fun way. C&F, teasing, saying "I hate you" with a coy smile, playfully pushing the girl away, etc all take the rapport that's already there and break it in a fun way. The biggest way people mess up with flirting is when they have no rapport to begin with. You can't break something you don't have

I'd go into more detail but you can find all of it if you google Entropy and PUA
 

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First off all. That is a great article. I think that it's topic is more important than the question you asked, but I digress.

To me flirting is teasing, playful touching, being a little mean and just joking around with.

The most important thing about flirting is that it should be fun.

BTW ready123, since you mentioned Entropy, any chance you were at the Casanove Crew seminar where Entropy and Doc Hollywood talked?
 

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Flirting is pretty much any playful teasing or touching. Try reading the Jerk versus Nice Guy and Touching sections of the DJ bible. There's a ton of great examples.
 

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Maxtro said:
BTW ready123, since you mentioned Entropy, any chance you were at the Casanove Crew seminar where Entropy and Doc Hollywood talked?
nah I wasn't there man. how was it?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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ready123 said:
I'll help, and this is a page from Entropy's ebook but it's the truth

Flirting is breaking rapport in a fun way. C&F, teasing, saying "I hate you" with a coy smile, playfully pushing the girl away, etc all take the rapport that's already there and break it in a fun way. The biggest way people mess up with flirting is when they have no rapport to begin with. You can't break something you don't have

I'd go into more detail but you can find all of it if you google Entropy and PUA
Hah, I do this all the times with girls, not even knowing that I am flirting. Wow, no wonder they love it and keep coming back for more. Not only with the hot girls, but the average looking ones too.
 

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ready123 said:
nah I wasn't there man. how was it?
Heh somebody at one of the meetings knew me from Sosuave since I use the same handle over there so I thought it might have been you.

The talk was very informative. They covered a range range of tactics on flirting, sticking points and day 2's.

Since you're in SoCal you might want to check out the CC.


Hmm my 2,000th post. I've been a member for 5 years and have 2,000 posts....

This is a time of reflection.
 

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Maxtro said:
This is a time of reflection.
This is your reflection:
Less posting, more picking up

:p
 

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CaptainJ said:
This is your reflection:
Less posting, more picking up

:p
That's basically what I mean. So many posts, so little progress.

Getting back on topic, flirting can be difficult if you're not used to it. You also have to be in the correct frame of mind for it to even happen. I had a couple of opportunities with some girls in my dance class but I just wasn't able to go into flirting mode. I think I may have been too focused on not trying to screw up the moves.
 
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Haha well I don't really know the difference between flirting and talking. Smile, tease, and have a good time. And touch. Get to know the other person. That's it.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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I always think flirting is more sensual touching. Like stroking her back, back of her neck, stomach, arms, etc...

Playful hitting is how girls flirt. Men flirt by doing what I implied above.
 

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Hmmm interesting...I'm trying to create a frame where I can understand how to build attraction.

So far, I've gathered that flirting is:

Being playful, touching/kino, teasing, C+F, joking/sarcasm, breaking rapport.

I have a few questions but I want to start with - What's breaking rapport mean?
How much rapport do you need in order to break it? Why do you want to break it; what does that do? If you were trying to break rapport, how exactly would you plan to accomplish this?
 

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Breaking rapport is basically showing you have your own identity and personality.. Not always agreeing with girls, having your own set of values and maintaining confidence in everything you do. Also, no matter how much you like a girl never let her know how much. You have to maintain the frame that you don't need her in your life to be happy.

This doesn't mean be an a$$hole and always disagree with her, it just means to have a strong frame and don't let her intimidate you no matter how hot the girls are.

Best thing to do is mix it up. Establish some rapport and if you share common interests with the girls, fine. But you also have to demonstrate that you have your own personality too.

Example..

Her: I love corn flakes!
You: Ugh corn flakes? I prefer cheerios.

Something like that
 

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Maxtro, thanks for the link, I'll check it out. There are so many PUA's in the community, I stopped keeping track of names before the Game came out. Now I just read up on the stuff that resonates with me, which is just stuff from TD, Entropy, and a PUA called Halffull that nobody's heard about who runs connection game similar to mine.

OP, here's a link to an article on Entropy's blog that has a small section explaining flirting.

Also rapport is not a quantity. She's either with you in the moment or she's not. You either have rapport in the moment or you don't.
 

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Touch her hair!! It turns girls on so much you do not even know. Neck and ears work great also. Of course only do this when you've known the girl for a while and are already building with the kino. This is the stuff that pulls out all the stops. (She'll think about you sexually, you'll most likely be warming her up for a kiss). Try to bring it up casual, compliment her on her hair (color, curliness, straightness). They don't spend hours on it for nothing. Don't sound gay when you're doing it tho, you shouldn't know too much about hair if you're not hetero or gay.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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