"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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i find that i have no problem going up to people and talking to them, but some times the convo fizzles out, i dont wanna be the same old boring guy with "how long u been here?" where u live type things...besides saying my name and smiling, and pointers? also i am not asking for all situations, many times convos go great without pasue but we've all had those times when u just need that something to say
thanks
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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I'm with you on this one, I have the same problems at bars around campus. It's kinda tough to find good openers in a bar setting, at least I think so. I'm almost more comfortable doing approaches NOT at a bar. Anyone out here with some advice to help us out?
 

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well, staying modest, im a good looking guy, ive done some modeling, and ill walk up to any1 anytime, i just sometimes freeze after hi my name is...

any suggestions? i know it depends on the girl, but u think i should just shock her with something like i coulndt help notice u were starring at my ass before?
 

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I frequent a lot of college bars. The thing about them is that lots of times, everyone knows everyone else. So if you're outside the "circle," it can seem intimidating, and many girls won't take time out to talk to you while they're buying drinks for all their girlfriends.

But regardless, they're just looking to get sh!t-faced and have a good time. Use all the "DJ tactics" like you normally would, but don't expect them to get you by alone, because you're dealing with loud noise, a rowdy atmosphere, and no one's in the mood for straight-up conversation.

Befriend her group if she's with one! This is KEY, if her friends don't like you, she's not going home with you. Don't kiss their asses, but be cool with them.

Then when you get her isolated, just go Gunwitch on her. ;)
 

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I hang out at college bars every week, b/c well, I'm in college. :) I do agree about the everyone knowing each other thing. When I go into a club or bar around here, the first thing I do is go say hello to all my friends. Make my rounds and get hugs from all the hot ladies I know.

Now, the problem of fizzling conversation. I totally agree, this has happened to me many a time when meeting a new girl. I have found that the only times this happens is when I have not had any alchohol. Once I have about 2 drinks, it's like I can talk about anything, and never let the conversation die. I also am a lot funnier and just so much more outgoing once I have about 2 drinks. At this point I'm not drunk at all...just more personality.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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It's just my opinion and I could be wrong.

I notice that when I talk to girls in bars that they either want to talk or they don't. Don't forget why you're talking to them in the first place. It's to assess their interest level. If they aren't aiding in the natural flow of the conversation, they are either very shy or less likely to be interested in you. I go with the odds. If the girl can't hold up her own end of a conversation, I just next myself and move on.
 

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i agreee, im just thinking of topics, esp at the bar most convos r about the stupidest ****, last night a girl grabbed my ass as i walked by and we talked about asses forever...i mean it went well after that but im just trying to think what do u guys usally bring up
 
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