"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Banged her... now what?

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There is a lot on here about how to get women. Despite me not doing any of it very well with this woman I slept with her last night.

I have not contacted her today. She seemed pretty laid back about the whole thing.

I guess my question now is this seems like it could go multiple ways...

1. We keep it casual and just be fwb.

2. She starts developing feelings and wants more.

What is your typical way of handling things after sex for the first time with someone?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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you want to go out with her yes or not?if yes ask her out again, the one who should ask what you both are is her not you, your job is make her panties go off the rest is her job
 

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You may only be a ONS for her if she had that state of mind. Find out what’s up by creating another opportunity for sex to happen via date, drinks, or whatever and take it from there.
 
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all the women i have sex with dip there toe back in the water within 48 hours so depending on how good you ****ed her WOMEN REMEMBER THESE THINGS.. sit back outwit and outwait give it 3 days, What do you want from it? then we can advise
 

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Your on a roll now, use your mojo and go bang more females and start a rotation. who cares what this chick wants or does just keep fkin her and focusing on your goals.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Fu*k... bit*hes be crazy. They wonder why we get a rotation going. I was actually trying to go about having a normal straight forward relationship with this girl, but apparently that doesn't work anymore.

Oh well.... back to the rotation....

Cheers to future bit*hes.
 

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so shes been in touch? or youve messaged confirming to her like the other 100 men her pussies made of gold?
 

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Fu*k... bit*hes be crazy. They wonder why we get a rotation going. I was actually trying to go about having a normal straight forward relationship with this girl, but apparently that doesn't work anymore.

Oh well.... back to the rotation....

Cheers to future bit*hes.
How do you know and why would you consider a relationship with someone you just took on a date a smashed just a few days ago? I assume by your frustration, that you made that known somehow?.?.
 

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OK.. so first off there is always more to these situations than what is explained in the few lines of text. So I'll just say this has been a complicated situation that both of us are navigating.

Having said that.... she has been in touch daily. It is becoming obvious she's trying to stay in control. Typically I'll wait for her to message me then we'll text for a bit but she'll almost always get short and ubruplty say got to go... or just not respond.... or whatever other games she plays....

I have been clear that I like her and I'd like to get to know her better. She came out first and said this. When I asked her out she said yes... but won't give me a day or time. Then she'll make plans to hang with her kids. So I write her off and just see her as a women I'll sleep with when she comes around....

However, from a DJ stand point these women are the fun ones. It's fun to have a challenge. It's fun to put the DJ skills to work. But it's obvious she's just playing games and in her mind this won't amount to anything more than a fling. Which is fine. But it gives me a chance just for fun to put DJ skills to work and see what I can do to change her mind from fling to relationship.
 

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Update....

So this woman has been the most emotionally unstable woman I've ever met. We'll get together and have a great time. Last time it ended with sex. The sex was good. Solid B or B+. She hadn't had sex for 8 months so it wasn't a normal romping.

Everytime... for the last 4 or 5 times we've hung out.... a few days later she's cold... she withdraws... and she starts coming up with a million excuses why we should no longer see each other. I simply tell her she's full of ****ty excuses and she's just scared to be vulnerable. Then I say whatever... bye. A week or so goes by and and we start talking again.

However, after we slept together her excuse now has been that she doesn't want to string me along and have me think we're dating when she's also seeing other guys. I told her to f*ck off and am planning on a mimimum 30 days NC.

How do you guys handle women like this? Do you keep sleeping with them and just get in their rotation or do you show them the door? How do you handle the situation?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Update....

So this woman has been the most emotionally unstable woman I've ever met.

How do you guys handle women like this?
I put them in the rearview mirror for eternity.
Life is too short to deal with messed up women and this kind of extreme push/pull. Doesn’t really matter how you leave her either, because she won’t magically change in the future.
If you think she’s unstable, there’s no room in your stable.…
Be glad you saw it in her early.
 
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