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Fox News disabled comments on this so I’ll post my comment here:

“Hahahahahahahaha busted!”


 
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* Political and religious discussions are not allowed on this forum. Experience has shown that they create too many problems among members.
 

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It's funny that card suddenly gets played when the facts turn against leftists.....
 

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It's funny that card suddenly gets played when the facts turn against leftists.....
Yep Too funny. It’s even funnier coming from the guy who got fired from being a moderator for his temper and bad attitude.
 

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It's the same play everywhere for those who claim to be "tolerant".

When they cannot counter the facts, they try to censor you.

How does that help anyone other than purely those with a political agenda?
 
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It's funny that card suddenly gets played when the facts turn against leftists.....
15-10 years ago all major european news site had an open comment section free for anyone to comment, then it became mandatory to register and now many have disabled comments globally for certain topics especially those who may let eurosceptics to talk.

For some reason the more anti-globalism and anti-immigration emerged within the public, the less the tolerance for comments appeared.
 

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It's the same play everywhere for those who claim to be "tolerant".

When they cannot counter the facts, they try to censor you.

How does that help anyone other than purely those with a political agenda?
Yep I see the exact same thing here. He had no problems participating in other threads and even personally attacking me which I ignored cuz as a moderator we sometimes have to do that. but this one is big against his party so now it’s time to play by the rules. I might even show this example to my daughter who is 16. I’ve been trying to prepare her for her to deal with people as she transitions into adult life. Classic example right here.
 

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I'm not sure the date of that Fox news article, but iit seems like that story is being put out to deflect from the fact that the president of the United States just confirmed that he would absolutely put his own personal best interests above the interests of the United States of America.

Seems like, "all of a sudden", there's an uptick in Hilary articles making sure to point out that she/her staff were equally as egregious.
 

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I'm not sure the date of that Fox news article, but iit seems like that story is being put out to deflect from the fact that the president of the United States just confirmed that he would absolutely put his own personal best interests above the interests of the United States of America.

Seems like, "all of a sudden", there's an uptick in Hilary articles making sure to point out that she/her staff were equally as egregious.
How about this? Let’s go back in time to where the whole Russian collusion thing started. And rather than open an ILLEGAL investigation against the president we left him alone and let him do his job as we the people of the United States elected him to do. Fast forward. Times are good. People are leaving Trump alone and letting him do his job. Do you think that question about talking to foreign governments ever would have been asked?

I am not a lawyer but I do know more about law than most people who are not lawyers. It’s not illegal to sit down and listen to any information that is voluntarily offered to you so long as it’s truly a one-way conversation. It would become illegal in this context when you start asking questions, digging for information, and then applying said information to your benefit.
 

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I'm not sure the date of that Fox news article, but iit seems like that story is being put out to deflect from the fact that the president of the United States just confirmed that he would absolutely put his own personal best interests above the interests of the United States of America.

Seems like, "all of a sudden", there's an uptick in Hilary articles making sure to point out that she/her staff were equally as egregious.
Can you expand on this for me? I don't belive he has ever said such a thing.
 
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Seeing how you just posted this:

You're always going to believe what Trump says, no matter what. You will remain obstinate and ignorant and alligient to your brand of politics, all the while bemoaning liberals. In your mind, liberals are evil because they oppose Trump, and fvuck all who oppose Trump.

In LL's mind, all should side with Trump (i.e. Americans should all think the same and be like Nazi Germany or North Korea).

So I don't trust anybody who's fiercely alligient to ANY one politician. I served my country because I WANT people to oppose and question. I WANT people to be able to burn the American flag. I WANT to live in a country that allows its citizens to refuse to honor the national anthem.

Here's a lesson for you: the TRUE "crisis" has everything to do with American corporations outsourcing jobs to Mexico and China (and countless other poor, corrupt nations). It has absolutely nothing to do with abject-impoverished men and women entering the USA looking for a job that might enable them to survive.

These "American" companies abandoned the USA in droves after NAFTA was signed into law by 34 "Republicans" and 27 "Democrats" (I strongly doubt you are able to truly define either term).

The owners and CEOs of said corporations are at the root of the crisis, in my opinion. They are the true terrorists.

I'd like to see men like Phil Knight tried and executed for crimes against humanity. Men like him are the ones who abandoned American factories for Chinese sweat shops. I have ZERO issues with poor Mexicans illegally entering the country looking for work (in my opinion most Mexicans work a helluva lot harder than Americans, by the way).

These corporations HATE the idea of a wall because they HATE American jobs because they HATE paying good wages to American workers.

Bullying Mexico with tariffs is no accomplishment. Mexico is a pathetic poor corrupt country that the USA already owns on a political and corporate level. The "agreement" on Mexico's part to help with the "immigration crisis" is a victory only for the rich and empowered few (i.e. the owners and CEOs of American corporations), who will continue to pay starvation wages and reap obscene profits.
Then you called somebody a "conservative fvckface" 2 pages later.

Hypocrite.
 
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Why are you guys arguing with a leftist? He doesn't even know that Clinton introduced and pushed for NAFTA?
He has no clue that jobs going over seas is a leftist agenda? A globalization of economics to be guided by Centralized Banks? Condemns ungoverned corporations yet doesn't know that Hillary got all her campaign money from banks? Doesn't know that Banks govern and run corporations for consolidated control over world production? Flooding successful countries with foreign people who are unable to contribute because they are unskilled and thus making workers an unnatural surplus of labor thus driving down wages and setting in inflation?

Stop arguing with a robot. He supports leftist on one hand and condemns feminism on the other hand. Those two things are irreconcilable. Every time he votes, he empowers feminism. He is your enemy. There's nothing to discuss.
 

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Why are you guys arguing with a leftist? He doesn't even know that Clinton introduced and pushed for NAFTA?
He has no clue that jobs going over seas is a leftist agenda? A globalization of economics to be guided by Centralized Banks? Condemns ungoverned corporations yet doesn't know that Hillary got all her campaign money from banks? Doesn't know that Banks govern and run corporations for consolidated control over world production?

Stop arguing with a robot. He supports leftist on one hand and condemns feminism on the other hand. Those two things are irreconcilable. Every time he votes, he empowers feminism. He is your enemy. There's nothing to discuss.
I never argued with him in the other thread. My intent here was to highlight his hypocrisy, which is fact and based on his posting, not his politics. So no argument will be needed here either.
 

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I never argued with him in the other thread. My intent here was to highlight his hypocrisy, which is fact and based on his posting, not his politics. So no argument will be needed here either.
Was speaking rhetorically. Not with anyone specific.
 

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Was speaking rhetorically. Not with anyone specific.
I do agree with Speed Dawg.

These people need to have their statements challenged, otherwise we end up where we are today, and heading for even worse.
 
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Was speaking rhetorically. Not with anyone specific.
He was attacking me in the other thread because I’m a Trump supporter. He also used to be a moderator a year or two ago but he got booted off the team and still has some underlying hostility with myself and at least one other active mod that I know of.
 

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He was attacking me in the other thread because I’m a Trump supporter. He also used to be a moderator a year or two ago but he got booted off the team and still has some underlying hostility with myself and at least one other active mod that I know of.
I just don't understand how people can be triggered by facts and immediately go to violence, personal attacks, and censorship.

I mean, why hate a person simply because they know things and can prove them?
 

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I do agree with Speed Dawg.

These people need to have their statements challenged, otherwise we end up where we are today, and heading for even worse.
I understand. And I understand that speeddawg was pointing out his duplicity. He is a lost cause. (the leftist) In his mind, he has to reconcile the fact that he has been duped by the feminist agenda with communism yet still wants men's rights as well as other duplicitous fundamentals.

Until he chooses a side he is too sick to be in the game.

I would never tell you what to do. I just know that I would NEVER argue with a woman. The best tactic I know is to not participate. In order for them to spew out garbage, they need an ear.
What if protesters were standing on the street protesting in pvssy hats and everyone who walked by, pointed and started laughing at them? Their power is "being heard" and drawing attention to themselves...just like a woman. Me, me, me.

They want an argument. Just like a woman. They are women and no matter what they say, how much they claim to support men, do not listen to their words, listen to their actions. Treat them like expired women. Fat, ugly, degenerate, bitter women. They are socially programmed to use women tactics and propensities. They are WOMEN!!!
 

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How about this? Let’s go back in time to where the whole Russian collusion thing started. And rather than open an ILLEGAL investigation against the president we left him alone and let him do his job as we the people of the United States elected him to do. Fast forward. Times are good. People are leaving Trump alone and letting him do his job. Do you think that question about talking to foreign governments ever would have been asked?

I am not a lawyer but I do know more about law than most people who are not lawyers. It’s not illegal to sit down and listen to any information that is voluntarily offered to you so long as it’s truly a one-way conversation. It would become illegal in this context when you start asking questions, digging for information, and then applying said information to your benefit.
Hmm. Without discussing too much about myself, based on the fact that he was hoping to become president, he absolutely would be doing the wrong thing by entertaining information from foreign sources without immediately reporting the contact.

As of today he possesses probably the highest security clearance one can hold. To put it in simple terms, his clearance can be revoked if he doesn't self report FIRST. Then where would the nation be? A president that is not allowed to be briefed on secret and top secret info... Just unclassified info.

I'm not going to

As far as Hilarys staff and their 7 violations and 3 infractions, I have yet to read EXACTLY what these are. I do wonder if the media is playing that situation up to lay people.

It all sounds VERY inflammatory but, when you work in an environment where you are exposed to this type of stuff, when you are not a lay person and understand the other side of defense, clearances, etc, you are more discerning when the media writes these stories. You understand that none of the are as simple as the media portrays and some of them are absolutely designed to get the uninformed lay person riled up.
 

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Hmm. Without discussing too much about myself, based on the fact that he was hoping to become president, he absolutely would be doing the wrong thing by entertaining information from foreign sources without immediately reporting the contact.

As of today he possesses probably the highest security clearance one can hold. To put it in simple terms, his clearance can be revoked if he doesn't self report FIRST. Then where would the nation be? A president that is not allowed to be briefed on secret and top secret info... Just unclassified info.

I'm not going to

As far as Hilarys staff and their 7 violations and 3 infractions, I have yet to read EXACTLY what these are. I do wonder if the media is playing that situation up to lay people.

It all sounds VERY inflammatory but, when you work in an environment where you are exposed to this type of stuff, when you are not a lay person and understand the other side of defense, clearances, etc, you are more discerning when the media writes these stories. You understand that none of the are as simple as the media portrays and some of them are absolutely designed to get the uninformed lay person riled up.

1. If listening to information from specific sources is a crime or "bad", then doesn't that cast a bad light on the entire Steele "dossier"?
2. And no, his clearance can NOT be revoked. He DETERMINES what is and is not classified. Your line of thought would place intelligence agencies over the President, which is utterly ridiculous and absolutely the opposite of freedom. You would literally create a KGB on the spot.
 
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