Atom Smasher
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Then you'll both have bad breath...Problem solved.Albatross953 said:
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Bad breath
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Die Hard
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*UPDATE*
Ran into this chick again a few weeks ago. No bad breath this time, so I went for her number haha. She acted quite interested that night and was happy to give up the number.
Didn't do anything with it until today. Like I said before, her face is so-so and this didn't make me eager to pursue her. But her body is awesome so I thought what the hell, let's try to get into those panties... Sent her a text asking if she wanted to go for drinks.
She replied: "A few weeks ago, I would've immediately said yes but I've been dating a guy since one month so I don't think it'd be right to meet up with you as well. Hope you understand!"
Just curious how you guys would play this. Just brush it off with "Cool, no problem" and leave it at that? Or try to push a little harder by saying something like "Who said we were going on a date? There's nothing wrong with two people just having drinks and talking to each other, right?"
Ran into this chick again a few weeks ago. No bad breath this time, so I went for her number haha. She acted quite interested that night and was happy to give up the number.
Didn't do anything with it until today. Like I said before, her face is so-so and this didn't make me eager to pursue her. But her body is awesome so I thought what the hell, let's try to get into those panties... Sent her a text asking if she wanted to go for drinks.
She replied: "A few weeks ago, I would've immediately said yes but I've been dating a guy since one month so I don't think it'd be right to meet up with you as well. Hope you understand!"
Just curious how you guys would play this. Just brush it off with "Cool, no problem" and leave it at that? Or try to push a little harder by saying something like "Who said we were going on a date? There's nothing wrong with two people just having drinks and talking to each other, right?"
Sounds like she was interested but just being respectful. Seems genuine enough.
I'm not sure I would even respond. If so a simple "OK" would be the most effort I'd put into it.
As you've indicated there's nothing overly special about this one so I'd probably leave it be.
I'm not sure I would even respond. If so a simple "OK" would be the most effort I'd put into it.
As you've indicated there's nothing overly special about this one so I'd probably leave it be.
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Yeah, that's what I ended up doing, just said: "OK, cool."
I was just wondering if it was a bull**** story, you know... It's been 3 or 4 weeks since I asked her number. Now she tells me she would've immediately said yes if I had texted her "a few weeks ago, but I've been dating a guy for a month now".
Seems a bit too coincidental... I asked her number a month ago and she basically says she's been dating this other guy pretty much since that exact week. It kinda seems like she was disappointed about me waiting a month before texting her (a bit more than the three day rule, haha) and now she wants to let me know I waited too long and she makes up this bull**** story about dating another guy since that exact same week, as if she wants to let me know I should've texted her soon after asking her number.
Don't know if I'm overthinking but it seems plausible. That's why I was contemplating whether I should push on some more, perhaps she didn't want to just say yes so easily after I let her wait a whole month, perhaps she wanted me to put in a little more effort before agreeing to meetup.
Don't know, don't care... I'm just trying to get more plates spinning and thought I could use her for that, lol. Onto the next one!
I was just wondering if it was a bull**** story, you know... It's been 3 or 4 weeks since I asked her number. Now she tells me she would've immediately said yes if I had texted her "a few weeks ago, but I've been dating a guy for a month now".
Seems a bit too coincidental... I asked her number a month ago and she basically says she's been dating this other guy pretty much since that exact week. It kinda seems like she was disappointed about me waiting a month before texting her (a bit more than the three day rule, haha) and now she wants to let me know I waited too long and she makes up this bull**** story about dating another guy since that exact same week, as if she wants to let me know I should've texted her soon after asking her number.
Don't know if I'm overthinking but it seems plausible. That's why I was contemplating whether I should push on some more, perhaps she didn't want to just say yes so easily after I let her wait a whole month, perhaps she wanted me to put in a little more effort before agreeing to meetup.
Don't know, don't care... I'm just trying to get more plates spinning and thought I could use her for that, lol. Onto the next one!
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Why not just do the obvious, here? I had a LTR who had an unpleasant genital odor. I brought it to her attention in a very careful way. She was shocked and immediately became self-conscious. It turns out she had an infection that she may not have noticed on time had I not told her. She visited her OBGYN and the odor was gone in a matter of days. Needless to say, she made sure she showered thoroughly and asked me if her genitalia were up to my standards (yes, she really did 
). She thanked me and mentioned gaining respect for me afterwards.
Another time, I had a woman with bad breath. I also brought it up to her attention. Now, she makes sure to have a minty-fresh breath before coming over to see me. Some of these women are completely unaware of their situations, given that most men--DJs included--don't have the courage to tell them. Don't be one of those men!
). She thanked me and mentioned gaining respect for me afterwards. Another time, I had a woman with bad breath. I also brought it up to her attention. Now, she makes sure to have a minty-fresh breath before coming over to see me. Some of these women are completely unaware of their situations, given that most men--DJs included--don't have the courage to tell them. Don't be one of those men!
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
VladPatton
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That motherfücker gave her a mint and is banging away, hahaha. I wonder if her snatch had the funk, tho. He's probably bangin her with Altoids crazy glued to his jambone!
Man I hate that "grigio breath" when they have had too much white wine.
OP I think she was just peeved you didn't call sooner, and you replied perfectly. You will probably get to get that ass bouncing next time you see her.
OP I think she was just peeved you didn't call sooner, and you replied perfectly. You will probably get to get that ass bouncing next time you see her.
Vulpine
Master Don Juan
What daƒuck did you think was going to happen?Die Hard said:
A TEXT?
:crackup:
Die Hard, Bruce Willis probably texts like a high school girl, too. Don't feel bad.
Though, he probably texts the next day.
:crackup:
BetterCallSaul
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My vote is for #3:Die Hard said:
"Who said we were going on a date? I just want dat sexy ass of yours on my c0ck."
Send this and post back what she says.
Back to the original message in this thread, personal hygiene has actually become more important for me as I've gotten older and one thing I've learned about taking care of bad breath is that cinnamon actually works best in destroying the germs/bacteria or whatever it is on your tongue or mouth that's causing it. It can be gum, candy, whatever, just so long as there's some strong cinnamon it will help. This goes as much for men as it does women because I get sick of talking with guys who practically have halitosis and make no effort to do anything about.
And this goes for business interactions too guys...keep that in mind.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.