"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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"Backup Guy"

yngad

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Over the last couple months i've realized i've become the "back up" guy for a couple girls and am starting to get fed up to the point i don't want to respond to their texts.

Girl A, friends from a while back we were really close but drifted apart. When she's not dating anyone she'll want to hang out and stuff but like clockwork when she finds a new guy - instant MIA. Earlier today she text me to see if I wanted to go to the book store (we used to do that a lot when we met years back) - how should i handle?

Girl B, met a few months back - will come over hang out on my bed or sits on the sofa super close but when i try and make a move she turns away. constantly txting during the day about bs stuff.

just getting fed up with it. what do you guys think?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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DonutMan

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If you are just friends with them, then I wouldn't do anything. If your girlfriend was doing this to you then I would drop her. Sounds like they aren't interested in you romantically, so I would just let them do their thing. Even though it's difficult not to feel resentment and bitterness over things like that, they aren't attractive traits and won't help you get with either of them.
 

Mantis Toboggan

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You're in the friend zone. And it sounds like you aren't getting out. You should either forget about these chicks, or do what I do and use them for social proof when you're out at bars/night clubs.

When I go bar-hopping with girls I'm friends with, it makes other girls feel more comfortable approaching me.

It doesn't sound like these 2 girls are romantic prospects, so I don't know why you're worried about it. Use them or drop them. You'll be fine.
 

jnice48146

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^ bump. Social proof is all these girl "friends" ( and that's ALL they are) are gonna be good for, unless you actuallly LIKE to talk about soaps, their boyfriends/ romantic prospects, what color to dye their hair, etc.
 
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