Back On The Grind & In The Field

[Microphone Fiend]

You could be if you keep throwing compliments my way, big boy. Hahahahaahaha. Actually for the dogtags its just a nickname of mines.

as for the pics I might show em to you and maybe 3-4 of the other guys with journals but thats it coz I HATE how this site puts so much emphasis on looks.

 

[j0n024]

True...But I just like looking at other people sorta my little quirk I guess lol...good luck ohh and whos the girl?

 

[Microphone Fiend]

Hey j0no24, the girl is someone I chased back in my AFC days, we pseudo-dated, I got sappy & it went downhill. We still sorta cool I guess. But yea, onto the festivities.

It's Friday night so what else is there to do but go clubbing right? So after getting ready @ home n talking to friends on msn, I stroll into the first club free of charge. I guess they weren't charging or something but that automatically made the club worthwhile coz it was free, lol. The club is actually kinda wack when I get inside. I end up leaving after 1/2 an hour or so and who do I see in the line but HB29. She came to town and didnt even give me a shout, smh. Anyways she bumps into me at a different club and the sh!t was terrible. She was rejecting my kino, she kept going to the bathroom when I talked to her and she changed venues on my ass. Oh well. Neeeeeexxxtttt


Moving forward, I spotted a two set outside club A. One is on the phone and the other is just there doin nothing. I open her, get a convo goin. Talk a bit about random bullsh!t and #close. Not a strong # close but w/e. The worst thing was i somehow convinced myself to text her @ the end of the night and she responded to the 1st text but not the 2nd. I don't know why I keep texting the girls the same night I close them, that sh!t has failed me like 3-4 times in this journal.

Okay, so I'm heading inside Club B and I spot another two set smoking outside and so I turn away from the entrance and instead walk right into the set:

MF: *looks at one target than the other*
MF: ....
2set: Um.... yes?
MF: Hold on, Im thinking which opener I should use
2set: Oh well make sure its a good one..
MF: Yo baby yo baby yo! What's your name shawty!!!
2set: *bursts out laughing*

(I liked how that opener went, I think Im going to use that style a bit more)

So after that opening, we bullsh!t for a while. Nothing groundbreaking or envelope pushing... I didn't know who to target. Both seemed receptive but not really vying for attention or displaying overt interest other than keeping the conversation going. I felt like more of a gal pal than a guy trying to get some pvssy. We talked about how I needed luck in the club coz it was all fat girls in there and they made catty remarks about the girls in the club. I remember they made some subtle jabs at me but I wasn't having any of that. Eventually I eject on a high note. I see them again dancing but at the time I was wasting my time trying to get with HB29 still and only reopened one of the set briefly before leaving.


Post Game Wrap-up
- I got one number from a girl whose interest isn't that high
- Lost a potential fvck
- Need to limit drinkin a little so that I am thinking quick and thinking ahead when I am putting in work on the girls and dont make the same mistakes over n over


hbNA
This is the girl I got digits from during the week. hbNA is supposed to come over after she knocks off work today. I'm 50/50 on her coming through. She is receptive when we text each other, which doesn't sound like a lot but with all the chicks I've been flaked out on, this is a plus. However, I've tried to get her to hang out twice n she rejected both times so I'm on the fence with her. There is no deep rapport or anything, just text message stuff coz I closed her within a minute or so. I do think I have a general idea of who she is based on my cold read of her so I can adjust my game accordingly if I get a chance to shoot.

 

[Snow Plowman]

It seems like you could be pulling a lot, or atleast getting a sh!tload of solid #s.

The next time you go out try staying in set until the chick physically walks away, if she doesn't just keep on moving the set forward and persist for the pull. You'll learn a lot from it and if logistics suck you can always # close and day2 it some other day.

It seems like you go in and get the #s but the chicks are going to be flaking because really they still don't have a clue who you are. The hardest thing with gaming party chicks is actually getting them to see you as a person and not some random club dude lol.

 

[Microphone Fiend]

It seems like you could be pulling a lot, or atleast getting a sh!tload of solid #s.

Thanks man, I need to get warm up sets out of the way and then hopefully get on a tear. It's that 1st set thats the hardest for me.

The next time you go out try staying in set until the chick physically walks away, if she doesn't just keep on moving the set forward and persist for the pull. You'll learn a lot from it and if logistics suck you can always # close and day2 it some other day.

Oh well I don't think it is a matter of ejecting too soon. I've done that whole 'wait until the girl leaves' thing, make the 'ho say no' stuff. I feel like negative body language and one word answers after 2-3 minutes of talking just isn't worth my time or an attempt to TA. Maybe when my skills get better and I am doing it for the thrill of it, but right now I am doing it to get some poon. On the other hand, for chicks that are receptive I've stayed in sets too long and worn out my welcome or lost my mystery so I try not to do that as well

It seems like you go in and get the #s but the chicks are going to be flaking because really they still don't have a clue who you are. The hardest thing with gaming party chicks is actually getting them to see you as a person and not some random club dude lol.

^^^real talk man. All the flakes I've had in the past month have been little/no rapport. Speaking of flakes, hbNA just flaked on me, smh. She said she has to take her sister out for valentines coz this the only time that works in her schedule. Fvck what you heard, these 30 second #-closes are essentially WORTHLESS. It's not even worth bragging about because what follows is usually bullsh!t and wasted time on your part. It's like starting with a handicap when it comes to trying to get a day two with these quick closes unless the attraction is really there. It would be easier just to find a new chick and get her interested than to try and regame and convince these quick closes.

As for the course of action with hbNA... so far in the past month I've tried accepting flakes ->rescheduling and I've tried being harsh to flakes and both to no avail. Now I'm just going to not respond. Makes sense from the DJ perspective as well. As the prize why should I respond, right? I don't have time for defective b!tches and they get torn out of my reality in a heartbeat. If they get out of line I'll replace their asses with someone who's brain is wired right and knows her role. Chasing a girl or telling her what she did wrong is for the next man. I'm not her parent so I'm not gonna tell her where she went wrong, and if she comes back, best believe she gonna have to pay whatever I'm charging admission.

 

[Snow Plowman]

Something that might help is get in the habit of being a person who screens chicks...

I personally think qualification is one of the most underrated thing, but now I'm starting to realize it's one of the most important things.

Back in High School I basically built value to the point I was a celebrity, and now after a year or so, I realize I was heavy with qualification because there was certain things I really screened women for and I was always screening chicks. This made them work and see me as desirable and they'd be comfortable interacting with the other chicks I talk too. Some days they'd all come together and just interact other days I'd speak to one specific girl. But at the end of the day no matter if I didn't talk to them for months, they all still desired me.

NOW I basically Assume High Value, and what I realized in most of my sets in the past 6 months it was basically a chick working to get me and them trying to meet my standards. I fully realized this...when my GRANDMOTHER was qualifying herself to me...My aunt, mother, female neighbor, etc.

When I really look at it all the chicks I actually been with, I was always screening and they were just working and hoping they'd meet me standards. One chick I was with for about 2 years. First year was...ok, but the second year it was excitement...she wanted to move in with me, take me on vacations, buy me ****, etc.

Basically start doing more qualification naturally in an interaction. (I've tried doing qualification as a phase and it backfired horribly lol) This to me is what can cause sets that last 30 seconds to not flake. Really if you can get them on the phone you can always pump there emotions up and force for a meet. It's the ones who don't pickup the phone!! It sucks but then again so many variables.

I usually reframe flakes as something I may have not had control over, because it doesn't mean I did a bad first interaction. It could've been so many reasons why she didn't pickup.

 

[Microphone Fiend]

Thanks for the feedback man SnowPlowman. Quick question: when you say screening, what do you mean? Because I associate screening with ensuring girls meet your criteria and have things in common with you, aka checking for quality. They either have it or they don't when you meet em and there is nothing they can do about it. In the context you wrote, I see screening as making chicks qualify themselves to you or jumping through hoops, so that's what I'll respond to...

Looking back you are probably right, I don't screen as much as I can. I used to do throwaway screening when I first started in a flirty manner when I was interested in maintaining my reality and framing the conversation. Stuff like, "Oh wait... we'll never work out because you..." or "That's great and all but can you cook? I need a girl who can..." along with backturns for negative traits, the whole 5 yards. I believe too much screening can scare away or discredit chicks with only ONS potential. The only thing I'm screening for is not being crazy and being sexually attractive to me. On the other hand though, I can see screening make girls try harder for my attention.

The little screening I do do is usually through quoting (credit MrSex4uNYC). Like lets say we are on the subject of girls paying their way for their meals on dates or movies, etc. I wouldn't come out and say "I don't pay for girls sh!t" or at least not initially. I'd 'remember' a story of how some chick did some totally off the wall sh!t to me (or a 'friend' hehe) and expected me to pay and I'd tell the current target how much my opinion changed about the story-girl for doing it and I never called her ass again. Then the target knows what I like/dislike and has a decisions to make whether she should try and get me to pay and risk never seeing me again or bring her own money and stay in my life. It's like Im letting her elicit my values in a sense.

As for flakes, well it depends. Half of the time I'll cough it up to an error in my seduction; it is always a miscalculation on your part if you think about it in the grand scheme of things. The other half of the time, I'll chalk it up to the chick just being defective and not knowing her role in my life. Depends how I am feeling...




Onto the night
So yesterday was one of the few days I am going out with a 'wingman'. I use that term loosely coz we don't hunt together. The presence of a friend just provides kind of a safe zone that helps me not basing my night solely on success with women. (even though it is still my main goal for going out, fvck this 'just have fun' bs)

So we head to the club and I decide to limit my drinking coz of last night's sloppiness. As the night progresses I see more and more chicks I know coming into the club. First HbCoveted comes in with her entourage. She gives me a quick hug around the back and then keeps it moving. Then I spot HBLatina (w\ her husband lol). We just talk for 15 seconds or so while she is alone @ the bar and then I try to steer clear from her on the dancefloor

Then I see the chick who I fingered and got head from in the club a couple weeks back (the one who came to my house afterwards although nothing transpired from it... she will be referred to as HBpokey from here on out). Last nite she was with a friend and said she lost her phone with my # in it. She seemed receptive again and was looking kinda cute so I'm going to add her on facebook (even tho the dumb broad was on my computer on facebook and didn't add me) and I'll try and get her to come over during the week. Then I see HBB, the girl who blew me off @ a houseparty last semester. I'm saw her looking hard when I was posted on the dancefloor but I didn't go in.

Best of all was the seemingly useless #close i got from last night (who will now be called HBEuro) was there. When she arrives, she clinks glasses with me and invites me to dance with her. She must have been with 4 of the hottest girls in the club that night so I can' tell if it was intimidation or just seemingly too much trouble but I did not dance with her all night. We were just looking at each other on the dancefloor but there was this dude just standing next to her and talking to her every couple of minutes. I know he was nobody to her, but at the same time, I find it kinda disrespectful and overly-dramatic to swoop in and steal a girl right from a guy trying his hand at her. I grabbed her a couple times when she would be leaving the club to smoke and she was receptive, hugging up on me and smiling. I tried to isolate but she said she has to stay with her friends. She leaves before I do, and she gives me a big hug and says to text her and that she'll see me in the class we have together. I throw her a text at the end of the nite but she doesn't respond yet again. Blah. Still, it looks like this has more potential than I though unless she is an Attention Wh0re.


In the club, there is this chick who is about a 6 or a 6.5 who is giving me eye contact and smiling whenever I walk by. Normal body and ok face but teeth are just too big for me. I point her out to my boy and tell her, she's not the cutest but I'll get head from her, so i might as well holla. Later on Im doing one of my walk-bys with eye contact and she grabs me and says

HB6: hey you are kinda cute
MF: *blah blah blah*

My next line after this was to isolate her onto one of the couches in the club. She is a 6 so I don't want people to think I am the one actively pursuing the girl especially since so many of my targets are here, so the isolation to the couch was two-fold, lol. The thing is, I was pretty sober but I got drunk off of having so many targets @ the club, and started actin stupid. I gave the girl my # instead of whipping out my phone so that it didn't look like I was picking her up and like the 3rd line out of my mouth was what are you doing later on tonight. This is how it ended:

MF: So why can't you make it to my place tonite?
HB6: Staying with some friends, they have a kid and stuff blah blah
MF: Oh word, you can just catch a taxi and chill with me..
HB6: Oh I got my own car, I just told my friend I would stay with her, it's her birthday. Maybe we can hang out some other time?
MF: *Gets up*
HB6: Where are you going?
MF: I'm going to find a girl that is putting out tonight.

...and then I walked away without looking back.

I'm a take no sh!t kind of guy, but as the night progressed, even I thought that was kind of hard, so an hour or so later I go back in to talk to her and try and guarantee some pvssy for the night and here was how it went

MF: So wats up
HB6: Me and my friends are going to a casino. I already deleted your number from my phone. You are a fool.
MF: Hahahahaha *ejects*


Got a little too ****y early on and got nothing to show for it. So we go sometimes. Next time I'll be humble even if a fight breaks out over me in the club. Even 6s need some kind of positive attention (initially at least). It's ironic though, because this girl stopped me solely because she thought I was cute, but when I talk to her solely for some sex all of a sudden I'm the bad guy. It goes both ways imo.

 

[Microphone Fiend]

Yup yup. Reading week is just around the corner so things should get kinda hectic then hopefully. Today, I had a free afternoon for the most part so I decide to sit down in the hallways and scope out the honeys. I see one of the prospects that I have yet to meet - but always seen in the hallways - and she makes obvious eye contact as she always does. I told myself beforehand that if I saw her today i would get up and approach her but I just balked when the time came. It was so unexpected and caught me by surprise.

After five minutes or so, I go to the campus store and get some chocolate (Aero peppermint if you are wondering, lol) and then I go around the corner to take a piss and I see the target sitting by herself in the corridor. I act like I don't see her and head into the bathroom, make sure that i'm lookin as suave as I normally do and go back outside.

I start walking away from her as I make eye contact, smile, swing around and sit next to her. She is smiling as well so its all systems go.



MF: Hey... I've seen you around campus and I like your style (MF using somewhat direct style!!! OMG!!!, lol)
HBNew: *smiling and giggling* thanks
MF: So what are you doing sitting here by yourself? Just watching all the cute boys go by?
HBNew: Haha well I got a class coming up so i'm waiting for that

*Snip out the stuff I can't remember*

HBNew: Tomorrow is so overated
MF: Oh wat is 2moro?
HbNew: Valentine's Day
MF: Oh tru tru, anyone special you got in your life? (Don't really care but Valentines Day is an easy way to talk about love/sex/etc so I push forward)
HBNew: Well yea there are all these guys trying to get in subtlely, but I rejected em for the most part
MF: For the most part huh, so you gave all the hot guys a chance and brushed off the others, lol.
HBNew: Hahaha no, well there is one guy who said he might come to see me from 3 towns over.
MF: He is travelling 3 towns over to see you? Wow! Are there no girls in those other towns, haha (Don't know if this really helped me. It's one of those things in my mind that just spurted out and probably didn't help)
HBNew: Blah blah

So she isn't sure if the dude is coming over, she asks me about who is my valentine, what I am doing tomorrow, etc. We cover a couple more topics and then I tell her I got to get going. I whip out the phone and tell her to give me her # in case the guy on Valentine's doesn't work out, then eject.

So yea j0n and SnowPlowman, no shaky leg this time, haha. This girl was not as cute to me as the other chick though (although she still a cutie)

HBEuro
Well, this chick is kinda wack after all it seems. I texted her on Sunday or Monday asking her if she is free to hang out on campus with me after class on Wednesday (Today) and she finally messages me back today, 2 hrs before class, saying that she can't coz she has a 3 hr lecture afterwards. I haven't responded to it yet, I'm not sure if any responses will do any good with her, oh well. The potential seemed there. I think it waned when I didn't dance with her that night or maybe she met someone new.

I think I'm just gonna wait and try and regame if I bump into her again while I'm out and about

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

hey buddy, there isn't much feedback i can give since i don't really experience with this...but the HBNew, would seem that she most likely might need a valentine, if she didn't seem to show disinterest ;-) Keep it up bud.

 

[Microphone Fiend]

thanks for the feedback DJC. Im going to call her tomorrow probably and see how things went on her date last nite. She didnt seem real enthusiastic about it so I'm sure I have more than a chance at getting at her. I'm still keepin an eye on your journal btw (that chick who kissed u twice and then told someone to keep you away from her...wtf?)


Today
Woke up with a sore throat which for me usually leads to a full blown fever unless I catch it early, so after class I went to walmart and picked up some Sunny D. Waiting at the bus stop I see a girl walk in with her jacket hood up, beautiful eyes but that is all I can see. She keeps looking for the bus and I open with:

MF: Hey... we might have missed the bus. We either have a 2 minute wait or a 30 minute wait.

and we are off to the race. I shift topics to school then to relationships, partying, etc. We get on the bus together but when she takes off her jacket hood, she has on a muslim headscarf. Awwww man, that just does not do it for me, lol. And to top it off the rest of her face is average.

Anyhow we talk sommore, we catch another bus, I # close her and we part ways. I am not attracted enough to call her, if she calls me I might try and get some out of her but i dont really care otherwise. Just practicing my day-game

HBpokey
Talkin to her on msn and I asked her where she is going tonite, she says Club A. I'm not going there and so I ask her when are we gonna kick it and she never responds. Blah.



I'm going to have to reevaluate my techniques for initiating day 2s because every damn chick is flaking or uninterested it seems. I'm going to reread Cultivate Feelings of Attraction and Desire, not Obligation, one of the best posts I've ever read, by Deep Blue, coz I feel like I'm pressuring chicks into day 2's when they should be waiting by the phone for me to call em.

 

[Mctwist4]

Damn, I can't believe I've never caught this thread before. You got some good **** going here man. Sounds like you could use a wing though...You don't live in PA do you? Well, keep up the good work.

 

[Microphone Fiend]

Thanks Mctwist. Initially I could have used a wing but now its 6 one way, 1/2 a dozen the other. The hardest part going solo is opening that first set so you don't just stand there all night but once the ball gets rollin... I don't live around PA by the way, ahaha.



Anyways just a quick update for yall. Been out Thursday, Friday and Saturday but no real success. I did grind girl(s) every night, and opened 1-2 sets but nothing really noteworthy, although yesterday I spotted a lone chick posted up against the wall so I tried the Apoc opener for the first time. As I expected the sh!t didn't even go as planned....

MF: Hey
HBcharlie: Hey what's up
MF: What are you doing later on tonight?
HBCharlie: I'm goin home to go sleep. I feel so tired
[blah blah blah I felt like telling the chick "Look b!tch, stick to the script the guy on SS said you would follow"]
MF: Do you want to come home with me?
HBCharlie: No I'm so tired, I don't think so, blah blah blah

She asked me for my number instead of me asking for hers. Obviously not very interested, but I've got nothing to lose to give my # out so I tell her okay but then the dumb broad doesn't even have a phone on her so she gives me her # instead. We hug and part ways and she leaves the club a couple minutes later. I throw her a text and nothing. No real loss on this one, she weeded herself out of my life.

I'll try the Apoc opener a couple more times but I really do not think it will work for me. The way I see it, with lower or low-middle class chicks, this stuff has already been done by the bum on the street, the construction worker on the walk to work and the smelly guy on the subway on the ride home. I'm trying to separate myself as a seducer, not appear to be like every other guy (even if my intentions are the same)

 

[Microphone Fiend]

Went out Sunday night and got a dance or two in, a couple sets that went nowhere. I was dancing with this drunk chick who fell down on the haha. I stood there like wtf, trying to act like I didnt know her although all my friends were pointing and laughing at how awkward it looked

Im posted up on the dancefloor looking for eye contact and I spot this cutie who I saw early, give my a quick glance. They start playing the older rap/R&B songs coz the night is winding down and we are singing em n dancing, looking at each other although we are about 10 feet away. Then she relocated next to one of her friends that is standing right next to me although she stops making eye contact. I know thats as big of a sign as most chicks will give you so I decide I'm going in.

We dance for like a minute, and then she ejects herself laughing. I'm like fvck her, i don't have time for this so I post up looking for the next girl. The club closes and I am outside talkin to a girl who is strictly a friend (only use her for social proof, not interested otherwise) and the chick that walked away from me @ the club gives me eye contact. I chase her down and enter a 4 sets with my friend and the mother hen of the set says something like 'Oh you're the little boy who was chasing after her all night' So I engage with her and talk for like 15 seconds until I her my main target say something to the effect of 'Oh its him... he was looking kinda cute tonight, I'm not gonna lie' and then I peel off the other chick and go for the number with the main chick after a couple jokes and a lil kino.

She tells me she doesnt have a phone so I bust on her for not having a phone and I get the facebook. I thought she was possibly lying about the phone but she seemed optimistic about giving me her facebook and she did make her whole entourage wait in the car while she typed her name into my phone She older but I'd smash yet another out of towner though, so It seems like I am the same position as I was with HBJ (also I called her HB29)

Actually my housemate was reading/watching some Mystery Method. I don't really like those pay for seduction things even if they are free coz it is too mainstream and ends up generic even if it didnt start that way but they said something interesting. They said making out with a chick in the club makes it harder to get the day two because they expect that the 2nd meeting implies sex or they group u as just another random guy they made out with @ the club. This could explain partially the many club flakes I've had. I'll have to test this theory out, or perhaps after a makeout in the club, if the chick is sobering up and not trying to fvck I'll go for more rapport or a deeper attraction. Im probably heading to the mall for a bit today, I'll report back if anything interesting happens. Pce

Edit: Also, one thing I'm going to start working on is my conversation skills. Personally I think I am more competent at holding a conversation than ever before in my life. However when it comes to women it is nowhere near as seductive or an emotional adventure as I would like. I want women to remember the conversations and go over them in their heads. I want to evoke feelings they forgot about and uncover things that their own parents don't know. I want to be able to connect to them on that next level in my conversations. So the three things I am paying attention to in the field as of right now are: Eye Contact, Kino and Seductive Conversations.

 

[Microphone Fiend]

HBEuro
Every time I text her she takes forever to respond. I bumped into her after class last week and got to talk to her a bit with the premise of walking her to her car. We get there and are making good conversation and she offers to drive me home. Decent conversation going throughout the ride, I thank her for the ride and tell her I'll give her a shout the following week. I hit her with a text a two days back and no response yet. No biggie.

HBblackchiney
This is a the woman a facebook closed in my last post. I added her to facebook and msg'd her saying that the next time she is in town give me a shout and we can hang out. No response as of yet

HBMuslim
This is the chick who had the scarf on a couple approaches back. I think I caught a glimpse of her @ the grocery store yesterday. She didn't make eye contact although I think she may have seen me 1st. I am not attracted enough to call so it is whatever.

HBPokey
Bumped into this chick @ the club again and she left with another group of guys. Fine by me, I just want my piece and im gravy. She msg me on msn sayin she was sooo drunk and she forget what she was saying to me. She went 'Away' mid conversation and stopped responding. Don't care about her enough to care about it if that makes sense to you, lol.





FLAKES
To be honest, I can't say I was gettin pissed \at girls for flaking after January, I just moved to the next girl for the most part although I was a little upset at myself, not the girls because I deemed it to be an error in my part. However, today I read a couple links dropped by Phyzzle that are changing the way I look at flakes. Worth a look to everyone doing these journals or experiencing a little bit of resistance from the chickitas.

HE FLAKE IS NOT THE END OF THE ROAD.
Not on the first date anyways.

From Tyler Durden:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=129725
From Allen Thompson:
http://www.sosuave.com/articles/persistence.htm

Basically, just emphasizing not to take flakes personally and to use some 'confident persistance'. Getting flaked on initially is part of the game and you shouldn't hold it against chicks from the get go. Later on let them know that flaking is unacceptable but in the beginning stages you are just weeding yourself out as a potential suitor if you NEXT a girl to easily.

From here on out, every couple of flakes I'm going to reread these posts and make it concrete in my mindset

 

[Snow Plowman]

I know how you feel...

One part of me is saying "You have nothing to lose, chase these #s down until they pickup and chat them up. Go for the meet up and CLOSE!!". This has been working well, got a chick to pickup and hangup after 30 seconds. (There was a lot of yelling and screaming in the background) I'm unsure as to whether this was pay back for me hanging up on her the first time I called...(I couldn't hear anyone on the phone)

Second part of me is saying "Fuk, if this was my Guy Friend he'd pick up the fuking phone instantly." At the same time I did know from the start that the #s wouldn't be solid just based on the interaction I had. Most of it was me gaming the chick despite her BF objection and just pumping her up knowing that I'd get the #, but when she leaves she'll be logical again and see her BF if there actually is one and just flake.

Phone Game is a very weak part of my game, and most likely I'm going to spend a good 6 months just learning how to perfect phone game and Day2s because there has to be an easier way lol, because some sets don't give you enough time to run a solid set. (Ex. Talking to a chick who is getting off one stop away)

Then there are some sets that are SO INTO you that regardless how much they like you, they can still end up flaking. I now see why some guys only go for same day lays because phone game is a whole art form in it self.

 

[Microphone Fiend]

^^^^Amen. I catch myself comparing her actions to a friend's actions, or a chick who had high IL. It sometimes makes me feel incompetent or like I did terrible with the girl and I end up focusing on where I went wrong instead of getting her IL high. The worst are the ones where you feel like you were on fire and then they just flake on you. Thats why I started this journal based on what happens after the #close. Geting the digits is really not that hard if you are confident but what happens after is what separates the confident dudes from the confident dudes with game.

I'm starting to think that most of the flakes are due to me acting like a dog especially in the club. I've been playing the role of someone just looking to have some fun and a good time, not necessarily sex, but never any relationship potential or interested enough to chase the girl. While it might work during the time I meet them, if I don't get what I want then and there, the next time i try to reinitiate, they are out of state or uninterested. I need to focus on getting chicks in-state when I want something from them...

But yea as for the flakes, I am going to try to be indifferent them from here on out. It just is part of the game and I should not be sweating girls that do it, or trying to lay down the law. I thought that chicks digged the party guy just looking for a fun, no-strings-attached time, and would chase him for something more and the pvssy would fall into my lap but nope. I'm going to try being more romantic or relationship orientated and THEN tell them I am not looking for a relationship. If it gets me pvssy, I am willing to try it...

 

[Microphone Fiend]

Rolling solo again last night, as soon as I get there, I see HBEuro outside the club smoking. I give her a head nod and a smile as I go inside. I dance for a bit and hang in close proximity with some friendly guys that I don't think I know but possibly might. After a while I go to get a drink and she is pointing me out to a friend. Can't tell if it was a negative or positive way, but w/e. I come back in that area after a while and she is getting macked on by this guy pretty hard. She looks into it via body language and the fact they were talking for at least 1/2 an hour but whatever.

So anyways during this I am dancing in the corner and across the room next to the bathroom there is a friend's sister who is there with one of her girlfriends. She is 24 or 25 years old, and definitely looks like she is sought after, but we are just friends. She waves me over and tells me to sit down and chill with her for a bit instead of dancing by myself so I decide to use em for social proof a bit. I am sitting betweeen the two girls and when HBEuro goes I grab her and we talk for like 30 seconds. Wack stuff, I think I brought up school hahaha talk about putting myself in the friend zone. Then she kinda started to walk away and then came back because she thought I said something else. I was kicking myself for like 10 minutes while the other guy was putting in work.

Later on I see ANOTHER guy getting in with her. This dude looked a good deal older and like Michael Clarke Duncan if he was bummy and wore crappy clothes to the club, lol. Maybe HBEuro is a tease in the club or a world class h0 I shall find out soon enough coz I am NOT going to put her on the backburner for this, I am going to prove to her (w/o bragging) why I am THAT dude she needs to get with. Wish me luck.

HBDruggie
During the night, as I am posted up, this chick opens me with

'OMG I just had to stop and tell you that you look like *insert celebrity name*'

I thank her and get her name but within a minute she gets lost in the crowd and I go looking for something else. Later on a chick comes up and says the
exact same thing. I thank her and ask her for her name and it is the exact same girl, lol my bad. We get to talking and she tells me this is her first time here at the club, so I tell her that she is a virgin here but don't worry we'll be gentle.

I try to isolate to the couch after like 30 seconds but she says lets dance instead. She says this is her first time in the club and she doesn't even like rap, she likes House. Here my eyes lit up. We get to talking about House and she tells me some story about how she was in VIP with Diddy and Erick Morillo and how she knows DeadMau5. I tell her that we have to go sit down on the couches now that she likes House and I get her 'isolated'. Turns out the couch I pick has her friend standing right next to it so booo @ that. Anyways we get to talking, I am trying to get some kino going but it is not working too well. She asks me if I've ever done drugs during one of her stories and I tell her 'I dabbled in it' (meaning to me, 'I have done weed a handful of times') and she says 'me too'. However, I find out during her following stories that to her, dabbling in drugs means trying everything under the sun. She tells me about a bad experience with blow, the best E form to pop, bad trips she had, blah blah.

The worst (and in retrospect, best) thing about this girl was that she would talk to other guys constantly. Some right in front of me and others when she went to use the bathroom. That night I was irritated (although I didn't show it) but looking back on it today, the girl was doing her thing. She opened ME and every other one of these guys and was just playing the field like a DJ should. She probably shouldn't have done it as openly but kudos to her.

Anyways the night is winding down and she comes to be and tells me she has to leave. I start pulling out the phone as I tell her give me the digits so easy # close there, and she kisses me on the cheek. I say jokingly, 'Thats all? Just a kiss on the cheek?' and she puckers up and so I go in for a kiss on the lips but it was barely a peck. I wouldn't even count it as a kclose if i was counting kcloses, lol. I'm gonna give her a call today and see if she is down for meeting up tonite at the local club that spins House. If not, I'm staying in.

 

[Microphone Fiend]

Hit the club last night, some girl friends of my housemate were coming over to pre-drink @ my place but I knew none of them were DTF and they were running late, so I decided to go out before they got there and meet up with the group later on in the night so lets get into it:

HBScottish
Get to the club and it is waaaaaack. There are literally two fvckable girls out of maybe 15 broads. It was like the club had was throwing Fat girl Friday's or some sh!t. I'm leaning solo against a pillar in the club next to the bar area, prime real estate to watch chicks enter/leave the club as well as enter/leave the bathroom area. I get some eye contact when they walk past and get a feel for who is interested. One of the two decent girls in the club walks by with her fat friend while on the way to the bathroom. I was making eye contact with the better looking one at the bar but I averted my gaze when the chubby friend looked in my direction so she wouldn't get the wrong idea.

As the two leave the bathroom, the fat one leads and walks reaaaaal close to me and slowly with her friend trailing but doing the same thing. She tries not to look which I took as a sign of interest and reached out and touched her arm. The heavy friend sees this and giggles and the target (HBScottish) turns around and is interested. She gets real close and we get to talking and then she says she is going to dance with her friend. Instead of going to the dancefloor she dances like 7 feet away from me and so I just watch em for a lil bit and then decided to go to the dancefloor.

HBScottish goes on the dancefloor soon after and starts dancing next to me. I grab her and head to the nearest wall and grind for a bit and then she ejects, something about her friend again. She ejects and I dance without her and eye up other girls and then when she returns she is positioned further away from me. I act like I don't notice and I am getting in close proximity to the semi-decent semi-overweight girl that she is acquainted with apparently, and she rushes in between the both of us and starts dancing provocatively.

I grab my coat and get ready to head to the club where my friends are and Here some next dude starts grabbing her and getting her to dance with him and she is resisting at first but I think he got to dance with her eventually. I wait a couple seconds and she ejects herself to the bar area and is talking to another guy. Afterwards she is next to her friend and I tell her I am heading to a diff. club but I would like her #. She says she'll take mines and I tell her no thanks. She explains that she does not have a cell, only a house phone but I get that anyways. We hug and part ways.

At the next club with friends, I didn't close anyone. I did have two girls approach me though. The first was this Asian chick.

HBAsian
While I am scoping out the club looking for targets, she grabbed me and says

HBAsian: Are you here alone?
MF: No I'm with some friends
HBAsian: Oh okay...
MF: I can hardly hear you, want to go sit on the couches so I can hear you better?
HBAsian: Okay

Quickest isolation ever for me, haha. We talk on the couches for a bit but she ejects to go back to her friends after like 5 minutes and I go back to mines. She is actually part of HBCoveted's entourage but I don't let on that I know them. She did mention it in an awkward fashion though. I asked her who she is with and she says, "HBCoveted...." pauses and then mentions other people as well. Later on she finds me and dances with me two or three times. The last time I was rubbing her pvssy through her dress and the whole crew of girls that pre-gamed @ my house was staring at me, lol. I asked her what she is doing tonite and she says going home with her girls. I should persevere or go for the # close, but I just wrote her off. I think it is the flakes getting to me, I gotta reread the links I posted earlier.

Also, this dude I talk to at the club when I see him keeps trying to 'steal' the girls from me at the club. Sh!t is getting irritating. Like I would dance with a girl and he would stand next to me and her, make eye contact with her, smile and try and dance with her. I just leave when that sh!t happens coz I really don't want her dancing with me and him and I know there is other chicks at the club. Top that off with me not being that interested and I am willing to walk away at the drop of a dime. However Im going to have to cut that sh!t out so that it does not come back to haunt me when i am with someone I have a high IL in.

Anyways, after HBAsian tries to dance with me and ole dude I eject and sit down for a bit and this next chick opens me asking why am I sitting down. She is a not my type, she is not fat, just too thick for me. so I just fluff with her and decline when she tries to get me to get up and dance (with her)





So im gonna give HBScottish a call today to see if we can link up tonite for this function Im going to and I'll add HBAsian if I see her on facebook

 

[qstorm501]

Good job..keep it up...LOL at fat girls friday it reminds me of this club we have out my way we call it hog heaven .. I have never seen so many fat girls in one place at one time..Props to you riding solo i just had my main wingman turn AFC and settle down so im gonna have to master the art of going clubbing solo

 

[j0n024]

good job brother....Go hit on those asians and record it so I can see what it looks like fvcking an asian......hahaha since there are no over here and all we have down here is UG!!!!!! Almost time for Spring Break though!!!! Cant wait for that gonna destroy some drunk chicks!!!!