"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Awesome conversation starters! And advice?

Black.Magic

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Hey everyone!

So I thought we should have a thread on what people use to get people to start a conversation. This includes implied starters, eg Do you dress exceedingly well so you can talk to high class socialites? Do you have a fascinating tattoo that draws people in?

I'm looking to see how people showcase and take advantage of a certain aspect of their appearance or car or even their Rolex

I use my height. I'm six foot seven inches tall, so about 70% of the time when Im talking to someone new, that will point out my height, try to guess it, ask if my parents are tall, do I play basketball, etc.

The other reason why I'm starting this thread is because I would love suggestions on where to take this! Sometimes girls say I'm tall, then stand close next to me to highlight how short they look next to me. Prime kino opportunity, no?
How do I proceed with the conversation after they point out my height? What if they stand next to me?

Also I would love to hear other people's conversation starter things!
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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r0cky

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The best conversation starters happen in the moment. You can have the best canned openers that perfectly fit the situation, but if you are not in the moment, women will see right through your agenda.

Just get used to noticing things around your environment, or what people are doing. You will realize there are many things to talk about in every situation.
 

Black.Magic

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r0cky said:
The best conversation starters happen in the moment. You can have the best canned openers that perfectly fit the situation, but if you are not in the moment, women will see right through your agenda.

Just get used to noticing things around your environment, or what people are doing. You will realize there are many things to talk about in every situation.
Yeah I use situation openers all of the time. Just mundane stuff to see if she's receptive and interesting.

I was getting at, in the OP, things like wearing a cowboy hat in the hope that a girl might ask if you're a cowboy or a rock star lol.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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slitherjef

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Black.Magic said:
What do you mean?:eek:
What ever is going on in that instant. Like if a girl is picking out an orange or something in the store and you could ask her for help how to pick that perfect orange.

You: Hows the oranges this season...
Her: eff off creep... or "pretty good so far"

and just go from there.

Keep your eyes open and pay attention. There is tons of things you could say. Its just having the balls to do so. Oh, and I heard canned lines don't really work well.
 

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slitherjef said:
What ever is going on in that instant. Like if a girl is picking out an orange or something in the store and you could ask her for help how to pick that perfect orange.

You: Hows the oranges this season...
Her: eff off creep... or "pretty good so far"

and just go from there.

Keep your eyes open and pay attention. There is tons of things you could say. Its just having the balls to do so. Oh, and I heard canned lines don't really work well.
Ah yeah I get you slitherjef! Yep, situation openers are the best. I have never tried a canned opener, and I don't really want to. Spontaneity is the key it seems.
 
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