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Women care about looks to a degree but no where near as much as men do. it’s not high on the list. in shape, yes. dress nicely, yes. HB5 is fine as long as you meet the other more important requirements. some of the most average or even not so attractive men become attractive in our eyes if they possess the qualities we value more. good looking men tend to be spoiled and have ZERO game or other traits we value. makes them unattractive.
Women worry about height whereas men could give less than a **** about a woman’s height. Women are VERY superficial compared to most men.
 

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Women worry about height whereas men could give less than a **** about a woman’s height. Women are VERY superficial compared to most men.
true. height for sure!
 

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I posted about this same stuff before too. I see hot chicks with guys who are fat, look like grease balls, generally not good, balding and overall just dont look or dress decent. Yet these lard balls get hot chicks and I have to scrape bottom of the barrel on old and I'm not fat or a grease ball.
These guys are not fat they just are not high on the attractiveness.
 

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Yup, if you just stare at women and don't say anything, you'll lose out to uglier men who dared to approach.
I wasn't planning on asking the girl out she was clearly the guys girlfriend seen this I wouldn't say really ugly dude but average and this cute girl behind him. I got the feeling she is a little insecure, she's cute not sure why she would be insecure, a lot better looking than her BF thats for damn sure.
 

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I’ve met my fair share of highly attractive women who were just bat sh*t crazy with drama.

Consider the fact that men with standards and options don’t have to put up with that sh*t, while the average/below average guys many of you see these attractive women with are men eating all of that drama and abuse just to revel in the arm candy moment you’re giving them.

Those good looking guys who are alone or with chubby women probably already f*cked the hottie with the average guy, and choose to either just continue spinning crazy plates (more bedroom time, less public dates and pda) or, he takes up a chubby one who treats him like a king with no drama.

Doesn’t seem like an enigma to me.
Most of these women I see with these guys I don't sense they are high maintenance or drama, they very well could be right loaded with baggage. I do run into the attractive women that are nothing but a big pain in the ass there is a reason why they are single and never find a man.
 

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Women worry about height whereas men could give less than a **** about a woman’s height. Women are VERY superficial compared to most men.
Not entirely true, its just flipped. A lot of guys wont date a girl taller than them (If they're already considered tall for a man, that is).
 

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I continue to improve my looks AND speech to for better or worse, make hott women (with boyfriend/husband) upset when I reject or act disinterested in them. Eventually if I run into them again, there's a decent chance that they'll stray for a "lover" on the side: me. If she realizes she still wants to be with her husband/boyfriend, then hell at least I got a lay. Always improve yourself regardless of what you see out there in field. Set yourself apart, make yourself unique. I'll never know if I have kids out there from ones that got slipped by the goalie. I mean, if one guy thinks he's raisin his kids when it's mine, so be it. At least my genes are in a roundabout way, movin forward. Now, maybe I'm not taking care of them, but it's still goin out there. Women can't pair-bond as well these days, so I'll be on the opposite end of monogamy.
 

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Yup, if you just stare at women and don't say anything, you'll lose out to uglier men who dared to approach.
And they'll wonder why some creep is staring them like a serial killer planning his next murder.
 

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These guys are not fat they just are not high on the attractiveness.
being fat is an issue because I see fat guys with cute girls a lot down here. granted, here in Floriduh I've never seen more fatter people in my life than Floriduh.
 

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being fat is an issue because I see fat guys with cute girls a lot down here. granted, here in Floriduh I've never seen more fatter people in my life than Floriduh.
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Here it’s not fat it’s skinny and geeky or they don’t have the facial features etc, you can tell they are beta type guys.
 

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Here it’s not fat it’s skinny and geeky or they don’t have the facial features etc, you can tell they are beta type guys.
Always better being slim than fat. You can always put on muscle and weight easier. Losing weight much harder, especially as you age.
 

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The drama comes with daily interaction and day to day affairs with them over time. You’re really not going to sense it from a glance at 2 people holding hands in the park or at a concert.
Ya that’s true enough usually thou you tell a little bit how they interact with each other. There are times I’ve seen women acting up and I’ve wanted to say something. The poor guy is dealing with her BS. Being with a BPD who’s middle name is drama I can just tell can’t explain.
 

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Always better being slim than fat. You can always put on muscle and weight easier. Losing weight much harder, especially as you age.
Obesity isn’t as prevalent here in Canada like it is in the USA. I know what losing weight is all about I was way over weight from a stress laden job. I remedied that problem.
 

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Obesity isn’t as prevalent here in Canada like it is in the USA. I know what losing weight is all about I was way over weight from a stress laden job. I remedied that problem.
Yea, Canada doesn't seem nearly as bad.
 

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Obesity isn’t as prevalent here in Canada like it is in the USA. I know what losing weight is all about I was way over weight from a stress laden job. I remedied that problem.
I'm the opposite. When I'm nervous or stressed I lose weight because I don't eat. last week I lost a few lbs because I was nervous about that girl after the date leading me on.

During the Blues cup run I lost weight too because I was so nervous for them I wasn't eating.
 

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Always better being slim than fat. You can always put on muscle and weight easier. Losing weight much harder, especially as you age.
I absolutely agree with you in principle. But with women, it’s never simple.

1. Women like a slim/lean guy if he’s reasonably tall. But a short lean guy is doomed unless he has a hot face or has ridiculous abs or is quite muscular.

2. Some chicks will go for an average or even below average looking fat dude because of his physical dominance.

So looking at 1 and 2, what can happen is an average height (or short) lean guy with average looks/build can lose out to a fat dude.
 

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Knowing what I know now, as a mature 40+ year old man, I would NEVER have a HB8-9 as a girlfriend. Never. Not in this day and age. They are just not worth the drama and headache. I f*uck a lot of them, I just don't ever see them as gf or LTR material.

If I open the door to someone with gf or LTR potential, it's always to around a HB7'ish. The amount of drama and BS drop off after a HB8 is exponential and significant.
 

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I absolutely agree with you in principle. But with women, it’s never simple.

1. Women like a slim/lean guy if he’s reasonably tall. But a short lean guy is doomed unless he has a hot face or has ridiculous abs or is quite muscular.

2. Some chicks will go for an average or even below average looking fat dude because of his physical dominance.

So looking at 1 and 2, what can happen is an average height (or short) lean guy with average looks/build can lose out to a fat dude.
And that's gross I think. I can never imagine being fat again. That's like a lot of guys hate really skinny women. I'd rather take a really skinny woman versus one that's even a few lbs over weight. I don't mean one with an eating disorder, but just really thin. Maybe it's because I'm thin as well, but women with meat or muscle turn me off big time.

Being overweight also makes you look older too.
 

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Knowing what I know now, as a mature 40+ year old man, I would NEVER have a HB8-9 as a girlfriend. Never. Not in this day and age. They are just not worth the drama and headache. I f*uck a lot of them, I just don't ever see them as gf or LTR material.

If I open the door to someone with gf or LTR potential, it's always to around a HB7'ish. The amount of drama and BS drop off after a HB8 is exponential and significant.
Yeah but in this day and age you have to put up with a ton of **** to get some sex from women. Just not worth it sometimes when there are free porn sites and you have a right hand.lol
 

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Summer is wrapping up the seasonal and touristy people are making the last crack at summer. I was observing people today when I was out enjoying the day, you know there is a really strong trend of really decent looking women in relationships with guys that are average some really low on the average scale. It makes a guy think what do you see in that guy? A good looking handsome guy with a good looking woman its fvcking rare I maybe seen 1 or 2 couples, most of the decent looking guys I seen today were alone.

One of the woman I was eying up she was cute, attractive, hard on material, she seen me looking her up and she started hiding behind her BF, wow your that insecure, her BF didn't look overly manly type of guy. Are women that insecure in todays world they need to latch onto a guy that isn't going to run away on them? The women that think their sh*t doesn't stink the ones that are higher up on the attractiveness scale they think they can intimidate a guy, it usually doesn't work with me give them direct eye contact back.

I know women are not into looks as much as guys but you look at these women and they are quite attractive and she's with a guy that isn't equally so. Like I said most of the decent guys were single or were with a chubby chick.
Because good looking men with options don't want to be tied down.

We can date 4 or 5 women at a time and can easily pickup another if one of them drops off.
 
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