"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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average time for phone conversation with a girl?

rocco

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What's the average time talking on the phone for you guys when your gaming a chick?

do you keep the phone conversations short and set up a date?

or do you game for as long as possible over the phone until she's really comfortable and then set up a date?

Usually when I call up people, I just call them up to set up a time to meet and what not, but it seems that some girls looove talking over the phone and that it seems that it may be a requirement in gaming some of these women to talk for long durations over the phone sometimes even hour long phone convo.., but just wanted to get some advice from yall in regard to the phone conversation game with women. thanks in advance
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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War Against Betaism

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It's usually up to me, but I've never had a conversation longer than 30 minutes with a girl.
 

rocco

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do you guys ever call just to talk, without the intention to set up a date?
 

LostAndConfused

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rocco said:
do you guys ever call just to talk, without the intention to set up a date?
Sometimes I tell the girl to call so I can flirt over the phone, but calling to talk is kinda pointless unless you live a long distance away from her.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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AfRoSwiss-Disiac

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Yo u only call to talk without intention of having a date if shes yo girl!!!! stop over analysing ****!! most guys on this website think to much!! juss do it!!
aight but fo real man call her keep it short until the date :)
 

I-tallionStallion

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the point is to keep the mystery....so you call make small talk for a few minutes and ask her out. if she's miles away then you can talk longer. you don't want to kill the excitement haha. But if your suave like me...it doesn't matter how long you talk lol
 

The Deacon

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Aghh, don't think about this too hard bud. If you're setting up a date, don't let it last any longer than 3 minutes. If you're calling out of the blue and just having a nice random conversation, you can go longer than that and play it out from there. Anything else in between, well, I'll just have to tell you to trust your gut on that one cause there's no real specific way of explaining phone game.
 
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