"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I've learned one lesson from two people who friendzoned me - never tell a girl that you see her as a sister, or say anything about how they remind you as an Aunt, cousin or relative or you are playing with fire and they'll take what you say and throw it back at your face with a vengence.

Ok, I didn't mention that in the past posts, but I have been making this mistake with some women, and I think it's a stickling point to my game. I get all anxious and stuff and out of fear of losing them I might try to appeal to them by saying some crap like that just either coming out of my key-board or out of my mouth. You say nonsence when you are in panic mode.

So - this is a hidden thing I never looked at - so dont tell women you see them as friends, relatives, sisters, cousins, and then be asexual around them, and this should help avoid being friendzoned.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Funny that you mentioned this, as some people would disagree with you.


Reason being, they feel if you "friend zone" THEM, you make yourself a Challenge.
This new Challenge then sparks them into action in trying to win you over.

Truthfully, this may be a "sometimes works" theory. It really depends on the woman. This is a tough one for me to call out, as I know right now, I mean literally right this minute, one woman whom I may HAVE to "friend zone" (and I feel WILL respond) and one woman whom I don't want to take a chance in "friend zoning", I don't have a good feeling about doing that to Challenge her. I'm using a bit more aloofness and distancing with her. I have a very, very good hunch that this particular woman is actually looking for a challenge.




If Number One starts pushing for me after I've LJBFed her, I will let you know.


As for avoiding being "Friend Zoned", you must maintain your sexuality around the women you desire. An occasional "Hey, you're looking hot in that dress today" comment or something sexual in effect (no perverted stuff though) , and then walk away.

And number two, NO GIFTS! NO GIFTS! NO WUSSY BOY FAVORS! NO GIFTS!

Read that last line again, please.


Signals you're being "Zoned":
"I can tell you anything".
"I just met this great guy!!"
"Can you do XXXXX for me? Thank, you're so sweet".
"You're a nice guy, you'll make a woman very happy one day."
"Yeah, all the girls were after him because he had a huge (holds out hands) ****!!"

Get the picture?

You're out, big guy.
You're done. Just leave.
 

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Luke Skywalker said:
I've learned one lesson from two people who friendzoned me - never tell a girl that you see her as a sister, or say anything about how they remind you as an Aunt, cousin or relative or you are playing with fire and they'll take what you say and throw it back at your face with a vengence.

Ok, I didn't mention that in the past posts, but I have been making this mistake with some women, and I think it's a stickling point to my game. I get all anxious and stuff and out of fear of losing them I might try to appeal to them by saying some crap like that just either coming out of my key-board or out of my mouth. You say nonsence when you are in panic mode.

So - this is a hidden thing I never looked at - so dont tell women you see them as friends, relatives, sisters, cousins, and then be asexual around them, and this should help avoid being friendzoned.
are you a friggen troll?

This was known from a long time ago.

Read Pook's ******** posts.

"Let's just be friends" means that I don't want you to see me naked.

"I love you like a sister" or other family member means "Having sex with you would be incest."

READ INCEPTOR'S ADVICE. IT IS PRETTY GOOD.

comic_relief
 

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So you're saying that telling a girl that she reminds you of your old crusty aunt is a bad idea? That's incredible!
 
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Serialized3 said:
So you're saying that telling a girl that she reminds you of your old crusty aunt is a bad idea? That's incredible!
Sure. The way I see it is that at any hint of sexual tension or some sort of tension I may fold or back down. These words come out of pure anxiety. You want to connect with people in familiar and safe terms. Sort of the idea that safety and comfort - is prefered to the unknown and risk taking. This subliminates into statements like that - or an appeal for friendship.

Sort of like a defendant pleading guilty in the court for a crime he did not commit to please the prosecution and getting hanged for it. I cant put my finger on it - but saying something like that to a girl is analogous to that.

Fortunately, this problem only occurred in two interactions with girls I was into - I'm an only child, and sure I would have liked a sister or someone close to confide in - but that's so bloody gay - I end up feeling bad that I invalidated myself as a bf canidate or lose credibility as a normal guy. What is this, the mother's boy syndrome or some other crap.

Anyway, like I said, it only happened with two interactions - but even if it's a blue moon mess up, it still seems like a 'sticking point' that's very, very perverse.

Then that world collapses once the girl gets laid by someone else, then I say, WTF is wrong with me - enough with this nonsence.

http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/infantalism

Think I have a 'streak' of this somewhere (not as bad as described there), and it's fvcking up my game. I end up asking my dad for permission to meet someone from adultfriendfinder and consulting my parents about it - again, a 'streak' there. Got to be careful about these 'stickling points'.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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These are people, two of them, which I meet from lavalife, which I am no longer in contact with since one of them crash and burned, while the other I just decided to stop contact since she wanted friendship. This back like last year and in January - but it just dawned on me, maybe I contributed to the results by saying those things and so I should not be so hard on them - since their personality was probably stronger than mines was so I just tended to say certain things that conformed to their expectations, or lack of expectations of me.
 
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