"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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thanks heaps for the link..
being a melbourne boy, i'm very interested, and perhaps a little threatened by this..
 

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Originally posted by quest
thanks heaps for the link..
being a melbourne boy, i'm very interested, and perhaps a little threatened by this..
Bump :cool: , haha just noticed im mates with one of the guys, ill speak to him about it :p
 

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dead set?
lol.

i'd love to know what level of this he's actually at?

I got a feeling that alot of the guys making money from this are at no higher level then me..
 

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These guys are good. Real good. I know for a fact.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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i'm not doubting they are REAL good at the theory.

The practise I don't know?

I only know 5 or 6 guys in real life who can compete with me for quantity of girls.

I'm wondering if these PROFESSIONALS are able to get the same quantity, but with 8s and 9s as opposed to my 7 average.
 

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Y'see, 7's are barely f*ckable in my book. I only allow 8+ into my rotation. And I still consider these guys good.
 

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Originally posted by manuva
Y'see, 7's are barely f*ckable in my book. I only allow 8+ into my rotation. And I still consider these guys good.
you must be the whole package. we'll have to go sarging some time.
 

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Done and done. PM me.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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