"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Attractive girl w BF..WWYD?

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There is this 6ft tall orange hair with a model body ,resident doctor at another floor and I was introduced to her by another hot blonde doctor.She has a BF and flirts with me.

another doctor recently asked me if I had GF because she is really into me.

I have stalkers at school.:rolleyes: female! ....

Her BF is a student and I saw her with him and she felt awkward and freaked out. when i saw them make out I just smiled. then I saw her w BF and she started holding solid eye contact thing again in front of him.He was pissed ofcourse I ignored him.

I think she is very atractive woman,Id think a year ago that she is out of my league.
but I dont know what I want to do..
I know if I go in ...I can easily by leading and handle logistics can same day pull her like
Ive done so in the past w cold approach.

logistics wouldnt work out for a date since she has a BF.
I noticed he is very insecure and needy.

But theres a vibe of DRAMA , which Im not looking for
but she has certain qualities that make her relationship except for BF lily pading thing.

I was thinking starting her as a FB ,then taking it from there. since I want to get my skillset tight before I rush into anything..

though I feel judgemental cause she has a BF and I feel that I wouldnt trust her for a serious relationship...:nono:

but I have an urge, a caveman urge to breed with this woman! :crazy:

Is it me or what you guys think? WWYD?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Go get her and use her as a fvck buddy with zero emotional investment since you sense the situation is loaded with drama and you also sense you cannot trust her.
 

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If she wants you to nail her, I say do it. I used to have a theory that all the good girls are already taken and if you want one, you have to steal her from her BF. I don't know how sound that theory is in my mind nowadays, but maybe she wants you to steal her away?
 

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Duffdog said:
If she wants you to nail her, I say do it. I used to have a theory that all the good girls are already taken and if you want one, you have to steal her from her BF. I don't know how sound that theory is in my mind nowadays, but maybe she wants you to steal her away?
if she is able to be stolen is she a 'good girl' :)
 

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MisterMcGee said:
If she is able to be stolen, she is simply not married. ;)
Good girls want the best guy they can get, and if you are better than her boyfriend, then don't hold it against her if she wants you.
And then don't be surprised when she leaves you for someone she thinks is better down the road.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Duffdog said:
If she wants you to nail her, I say do it. I used to have a theory that all the good girls are already taken and if you want one, you have to steal her from her BF. I don't know how sound that theory is in my mind nowadays, but maybe she wants you to steal her away?
The problem with this theory is that if you do successfully "steal" her from her B/f, she is therefore a "stealable" type woman. THat means that inevitably some other more alpha guy can also steal her from you.
Chicks who are entirely driven by self interest and who have "negotiable " morals, scruples or ethics are not LTR material for this very reason.
 

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In one breath we condemn women for branch swinging. With another, we encourage it.
 

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Hooligan Harry said:
In one breath we condemn women for branch swinging. With another, we encourage it.
Sounds like a lot of American foreign policy... "hey, they do it... why can't we?"

As for the actual first post... you're in medicine, and you're asking about whether or not to fool around with another guy's girl? Nice morality there, bub. Excuse me if I take my injuries to another hospital.
 

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You ready for a challenge...

I don't think you can do it - I think she'll LJBF you last minute (after she knows she owns the frame w/r to you)
 

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Sinistar said:
You ready for a challenge...

I don't think you can do it - I think she'll LJBF you last minute (after she knows she owns the frame w/r to you)
I wonder why you say that ?

but to break it down dude.seriously...Im getting motivated by your challenge.

thanks for the extra push,this fun for me...
 
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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broken dreams said:
[why you say that ?
...from what I've seen more often than not the guy that pulls the girl from a BF just does it instead of thinking about it, strategizing, etc. In other words, she's already been exposed to you to some degree and chicks have this uncanny ability to sense that you have been premeditating w/r to them. So my guess is that she'll toy with you until she knows for certain she owns the frame and then back off because she'll sense you're dwelling on her.

Then throw in your mention of 'drama vibes', mentioning 'model body' and possibly being relationship material - every guy with one-itis parrots those lines. Most guys with one-itis blow hookups because of the vibes they throw off. Wouldn't a LJBF be a perfect defense if you are covert insecure creature craving to feel desirable but not feeling desire/interest in return?

broken dreams said:
seriously...Im getting motivated by your challenge
Maybe that was my goal - you docs are way too easy :)
 

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Sinistar said:
...from what I've seen more often than not the guy that pulls the girl from a BF just does it instead of thinking about it, strategizing, etc. In other words, she's already been exposed to you to some degree and chicks have this uncanny ability to sense that you have been premeditating w/r to them. So my guess is that she'll toy with you until she knows for certain she owns the frame and then back off because she'll sense you're dwelling on her.

Then throw in your mention of 'drama vibes', mentioning 'model body' and possibly being relationship material - every guy with one-itis parrots those lines. Most guys with one-itis blow hookups because of the vibes they throw off. Wouldn't a LJBF be a perfect defense if you are covert insecure creature craving to feel desirable but not feeling desire/interest in return?

Maybe that was my goal - you docs are way too easy :)
No, do not LJBF her. Don't act attracted to her, be attractive to her. Let her catch you occasionally checking her out, but don't flirt. Be charming and witty. One day, you two will be alone, sitting or standing somewhere, you're faces a few inches apart and it will happen.

Sinister is right about the frame, it's everything.
 

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MR_PERFECT said:
No, do not LJBF her. Don't act attracted to her, be attractive to her. Let her catch you occasionally checking her out, but don't flirt. Be charming and witty. One day, you two will be alone, sitting or standing somewhere, you're faces a few inches apart and it will happen.

Sinister is right about the frame, it's everything.
I know this is not the advice you're going to want to hear but if you really want to nail this girl (and thats all you want) my suggestion is to WAIT!!! BE patient. Continue to be your awesome, cool, attractive self... Let the tension build... Don't pursue her.. Be pursued by her.. Become someone she admires and adores.

The Art of War teaches us to sever the attachment between two armies, rather than attack one army or the other dead-on.

Have lunch with her maybe but don't make any passes..

But remember, being someones' rebound is exactly that.
 

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This worked for me.....

"Do you have a man?"

She replies "Yes... I do."

"So you still want to go to the movies or what?"

*shrugs* .. it worked.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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