"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Attracting less than perfect ladies

April_Infinite

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I have read quite alot of this material over the last two months, and it has really flipped my life upside down. I actually approached a random stranger in the mall, and even though I didn't get the number, it was quite cool actually having the balls to do that.

Anyways, I have been trying to apply the things I have learned to life, and I have hit a roadblock. The knowledge on the site works well for getting HB 8-10s, because the PUAs only go for othose types of girls. But when I try to use this on HB 7-under shy girls, it bombs. Neg-hitting doesn't work, they already are below my status, and usually take offense. Going after them doesn't work well either, they are so reserved, they blow off me (because they have been taught not to deal with guys like that) , or back away from my advances. I actually feel right now that I could snag a HB 8 better than I could get a HB 6 shy girl.



Pretty much I ask, what techniques work on shy, and less than perfect girls?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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blinkwatt

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April_Infinite said:
Pretty much I ask, what techniques work on shy, and less than perfect girls?
Cutting straight to the point. No beading around the bush with the hb8s or below. They tend to not know how to play games and may take offense to something that's a joke.
 

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I disagree blinkwatt, they are shy, not dumb, I've been straightfoward before, and just like an HB 8-10, they'll drop you like you're hot.
 

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April_Infinite said:
I disagree blinkwatt, they are shy, not dumb, I've been straightfoward before, and just like an HB 8-10, they'll drop you like you're hot.
I tend to take a straight,no beading around the bush to all hb7.5-10 that I have gone out with. You have a good point though,what may work for me,may not work for others and vica versa.
 

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Jesus fvck, not this again. There is no HB7. HB = Hot Babe. A "hot babe" is 9+ on the 1-10 scale. An 8 is "attractive," a 7 is "below average," and 6 or below is "unattractive." Now that that's out of the way, what I want to ask is this: why are you going after below average / unattractive women? What the hell is wrong with you?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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blinkwatt, what's up buddy. Yo hit me up on AIM man you're never on anymore.
 

rrrrr

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i've noticed better looking women tend to be more open to my advances. is that what you're saying?
 

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The knowledge on the site works well for getting HB 8-10s, because the PUAs only go for othose types of girls. But when I try to use this on HB 7-under shy girls, it bombs.
The problem's not in the girls. You have low confidence, so you go for the 7s, but they can smell it just the same as the 9s and 10s. Just practice and you'll get over this.
 

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Krassus said:
A "hot babe" is 9+ on the 1-10 scale. An 8 is "attractive," a 7 is "below average," and 6 or below is "unattractive."
What the hell are you talking about?

How do you go from attractive to below average in one point?

5 is average 6 cute 7 pretty 8+ hot
4 is below average 3- is ugly

But

Now that that's out of the way, what I want to ask is this: why are you going after below average / unattractive women? What the hell is wrong with you?

I fully agree with you on this. First thought that crossed my mind when I read the first post.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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no i agree with kraauss

9, 10 is hot

8 is attractive

7 is pretty

6 is average

5 below ugly, fugly, buggly
 

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If that were the case then the rating system would only go from 1-5 wouldn't it? :rolleyes:
 

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Yea, I hate to argue about "HB rating points" on an internet forum, it's kind of humiliating in a way, I feel so nerdy talking about it. But I disagree with Krassus


its on a scale of 1-10. 5 is average, 6 is sorta cute. You know, the "oh, i'd let her suck my d1ck" kind of girls. 7 is pretty: the "i'd **** her" kind of girl. 8+ is hot
 

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no it doesn't work that way, and i dont feel weird

you wouldn't go see a 6/10 film would you? HELL NO, let alone a <5/10 movie

you definately wouldn't let a 6/10 girl suck you
 

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Let's not split hair discussing the 1-10 scale again please.

The point is some girls may get male's attention on a regular basis while others are less likely to be approached 10 times a day. However there's nothing wrong with wanting to date the latter if you're so inclined. It's just a matter of personal preferences.

Now back to the OP.

Neg-hitting doesn't work, they already are below my status, and usually take offense.
Then don't do it! If there's no need for a neg-hit why would you use one? Just because someone told you to?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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April_Infinite

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Excactly what JLW and Othello said, just because they are HB 6-7 doesn't mean they aren't attractive, and one with a great personality makes up for that.

Pretty much, I want to know how to attract a girl that aren't so open to being DJed like shy, and 6-7s. I'm not saying I want to get ugly girls, just how to DJ decent ones, since they seem to ignore or repel DJ'ing techniques.
 

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April_Infinite said:
just because they are HB 6-7 doesn't mean they aren't attractive, and one with a great personality makes up for that.
Funniest thing I've heard all morning! :D
 

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if u are able tp pick up good looking girls, why would u lower ur standards???

this is exactly why when i fcked a 9.5/10, i cancelled my date the next day with a 7/10.......cuz she just seemed lesss worthy after getting such good pvssy

WHY LOWER YOUR STANDARDS IF U DONT HAVE TO??
 

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lol, I didn't ask you guys to argue with me about my preferences in women. I asked what I can do to make dealing with these women easier.

I hate how I must validate myself to you, I thought you'd understand instead of laughing at me. I'm sorry Krassus, I'm not an experienced DJ like you, I'm shy, afc, and just learned about the DJ'ing community two months ago. I am not good enough to get a HB 8-10 yet. I'm practicing on HB 6-7 until I get comfortable enough to move on. Also, I am in high school, this limits my choices alot.
 

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In bold:

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I'm sorry Krassus, I'm not an experienced DJ like you,

I'm not a "DJ," whatever the hell that means. Everyone who knows me knows I've got NO game. But I do have GUTS and that makes up for it ten-fold. It doesn't take experience to have guts... it takes guts to have guts.


I'm shy

I'm shy too by nature, though you'd never in hell be able to tell if I hadn't told you. I make it an asset and use it to my benefit instead of singling it out as a weakness.


just learned about the DJ'ing community two months ago

Who cares when you learned about it? The community is irrelevant. You were BORN a man, and right then and there you already had ALL it takes to get women. Trust me, mankind survived just fine during the 5.999999 billion years prior to the invention of the internet.


I am not good enough to get a HB 8-10 yet.

Bull****, I don't buy that. There is no "good." Are you morbidly obese, disfigured or blind? If not, you're good to go! Don't think that the amount of time spent on here and/or the amount of "knowledge" you have about women will have ANY effect on how good you're gonna do. The ONLY thing that matters is your SELF-IMAGE. If you think you're good enough, you're right. If you think you're not good enough, you're right. Problem is, if you don't think you're good enough now, no amount of experience will fix that. You'll either one day (such as today!) decide that you ARE good enough or you'll go through life with an inferiority complex or you'll have to get into therapy. Which one seems like the best option? :)

I'm practicing on HB 6-7 until I get comfortable enough

Forget comfort. The DEAD are comfortable. You will NEVER be comfortable as long as you're alive. Never. To pursue comfort is to pursue death and if you consider the fact that most people die just years after "comfortable retirement," you'll realize how true this is (check the official statistics, they're shocking!). The point is: getting over this "comfort" **** will be as easy/difficult today as it'll be years from now. Some people never get over it - they're the people who've been on here for half a decade, taken every workshop imaginable, read every ebook and STILL can't get a date if their life depended on it. They're the ones who always think that they're not good enough (sound familiar) or that they're not yet comfortable to do this or that. So they wait and they wait and they they get old and marry fat ugly chicks and retire and die. Nice, huh? Trust me, take my advice. KICK YOUR OWN ASS AND TAKE WHAT YOU WANT *TODAY*! Life is really, REALLY too fvcking short man.


to move on. Also, I am in high school, this limits my choices alot.

You've gotta be kidding me. I'd kill to be back in HS! I'd probably get laid 3x/wk+! Crazy... HS is the easiest place to get laid in the whole world, except for maybe a "party school" college/university. Even so, chicks tend to be in their sluttiest phase in their teens and not in their early 20's. Not to mention that you're surrounded by guys who have absolutely NO idea what they're doing... god, how much more can you ask for?!
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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