"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Attracting less than perfect ladies

April_Infinite

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I have read quite alot of this material over the last two months, and it has really flipped my life upside down. I actually approached a random stranger in the mall, and even though I didn't get the number, it was quite cool actually having the balls to do that.

Anyways, I have been trying to apply the things I have learned to life, and I have hit a roadblock. The knowledge on the site works well for getting HB 8-10s, because the PUAs only go for othose types of girls. But when I try to use this on HB 7-under shy girls, it bombs. Neg-hitting doesn't work, they already are below my status, and usually take offense. Going after them doesn't work well either, they are so reserved, they blow off me (because they have been taught not to deal with guys like that) , or back away from my advances. I actually feel right now that I could snag a HB 8 better than I could get a HB 6 shy girl.



Pretty much I ask, what techniques work on shy, and less than perfect girls?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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blinkwatt

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April_Infinite said:
Pretty much I ask, what techniques work on shy, and less than perfect girls?
Cutting straight to the point. No beading around the bush with the hb8s or below. They tend to not know how to play games and may take offense to something that's a joke.
 

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I disagree blinkwatt, they are shy, not dumb, I've been straightfoward before, and just like an HB 8-10, they'll drop you like you're hot.
 

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April_Infinite said:
I disagree blinkwatt, they are shy, not dumb, I've been straightfoward before, and just like an HB 8-10, they'll drop you like you're hot.
I tend to take a straight,no beading around the bush to all hb7.5-10 that I have gone out with. You have a good point though,what may work for me,may not work for others and vica versa.
 

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Jesus fvck, not this again. There is no HB7. HB = Hot Babe. A "hot babe" is 9+ on the 1-10 scale. An 8 is "attractive," a 7 is "below average," and 6 or below is "unattractive." Now that that's out of the way, what I want to ask is this: why are you going after below average / unattractive women? What the hell is wrong with you?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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blinkwatt, what's up buddy. Yo hit me up on AIM man you're never on anymore.
 

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i've noticed better looking women tend to be more open to my advances. is that what you're saying?
 

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The knowledge on the site works well for getting HB 8-10s, because the PUAs only go for othose types of girls. But when I try to use this on HB 7-under shy girls, it bombs.
The problem's not in the girls. You have low confidence, so you go for the 7s, but they can smell it just the same as the 9s and 10s. Just practice and you'll get over this.
 

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Krassus said:
A "hot babe" is 9+ on the 1-10 scale. An 8 is "attractive," a 7 is "below average," and 6 or below is "unattractive."
What the hell are you talking about?

How do you go from attractive to below average in one point?

5 is average 6 cute 7 pretty 8+ hot
4 is below average 3- is ugly

But

Now that that's out of the way, what I want to ask is this: why are you going after below average / unattractive women? What the hell is wrong with you?

I fully agree with you on this. First thought that crossed my mind when I read the first post.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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no i agree with kraauss

9, 10 is hot

8 is attractive

7 is pretty

6 is average

5 below ugly, fugly, buggly
 

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If that were the case then the rating system would only go from 1-5 wouldn't it? :rolleyes:
 

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Yea, I hate to argue about "HB rating points" on an internet forum, it's kind of humiliating in a way, I feel so nerdy talking about it. But I disagree with Krassus


its on a scale of 1-10. 5 is average, 6 is sorta cute. You know, the "oh, i'd let her suck my d1ck" kind of girls. 7 is pretty: the "i'd **** her" kind of girl. 8+ is hot
 

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no it doesn't work that way, and i dont feel weird

you wouldn't go see a 6/10 film would you? HELL NO, let alone a <5/10 movie

you definately wouldn't let a 6/10 girl suck you
 

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Let's not split hair discussing the 1-10 scale again please.

The point is some girls may get male's attention on a regular basis while others are less likely to be approached 10 times a day. However there's nothing wrong with wanting to date the latter if you're so inclined. It's just a matter of personal preferences.

Now back to the OP.

Neg-hitting doesn't work, they already are below my status, and usually take offense.
Then don't do it! If there's no need for a neg-hit why would you use one? Just because someone told you to?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Excactly what JLW and Othello said, just because they are HB 6-7 doesn't mean they aren't attractive, and one with a great personality makes up for that.

Pretty much, I want to know how to attract a girl that aren't so open to being DJed like shy, and 6-7s. I'm not saying I want to get ugly girls, just how to DJ decent ones, since they seem to ignore or repel DJ'ing techniques.
 

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April_Infinite said:
just because they are HB 6-7 doesn't mean they aren't attractive, and one with a great personality makes up for that.
Funniest thing I've heard all morning! :D
 

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if u are able tp pick up good looking girls, why would u lower ur standards???

this is exactly why when i fcked a 9.5/10, i cancelled my date the next day with a 7/10.......cuz she just seemed lesss worthy after getting such good pvssy

WHY LOWER YOUR STANDARDS IF U DONT HAVE TO??
 

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lol, I didn't ask you guys to argue with me about my preferences in women. I asked what I can do to make dealing with these women easier.

I hate how I must validate myself to you, I thought you'd understand instead of laughing at me. I'm sorry Krassus, I'm not an experienced DJ like you, I'm shy, afc, and just learned about the DJ'ing community two months ago. I am not good enough to get a HB 8-10 yet. I'm practicing on HB 6-7 until I get comfortable enough to move on. Also, I am in high school, this limits my choices alot.
 

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In bold:

April_Infinite said:
I'm sorry Krassus, I'm not an experienced DJ like you,

I'm not a "DJ," whatever the hell that means. Everyone who knows me knows I've got NO game. But I do have GUTS and that makes up for it ten-fold. It doesn't take experience to have guts... it takes guts to have guts.


I'm shy

I'm shy too by nature, though you'd never in hell be able to tell if I hadn't told you. I make it an asset and use it to my benefit instead of singling it out as a weakness.


just learned about the DJ'ing community two months ago

Who cares when you learned about it? The community is irrelevant. You were BORN a man, and right then and there you already had ALL it takes to get women. Trust me, mankind survived just fine during the 5.999999 billion years prior to the invention of the internet.


I am not good enough to get a HB 8-10 yet.

Bull****, I don't buy that. There is no "good." Are you morbidly obese, disfigured or blind? If not, you're good to go! Don't think that the amount of time spent on here and/or the amount of "knowledge" you have about women will have ANY effect on how good you're gonna do. The ONLY thing that matters is your SELF-IMAGE. If you think you're good enough, you're right. If you think you're not good enough, you're right. Problem is, if you don't think you're good enough now, no amount of experience will fix that. You'll either one day (such as today!) decide that you ARE good enough or you'll go through life with an inferiority complex or you'll have to get into therapy. Which one seems like the best option? :)

I'm practicing on HB 6-7 until I get comfortable enough

Forget comfort. The DEAD are comfortable. You will NEVER be comfortable as long as you're alive. Never. To pursue comfort is to pursue death and if you consider the fact that most people die just years after "comfortable retirement," you'll realize how true this is (check the official statistics, they're shocking!). The point is: getting over this "comfort" **** will be as easy/difficult today as it'll be years from now. Some people never get over it - they're the people who've been on here for half a decade, taken every workshop imaginable, read every ebook and STILL can't get a date if their life depended on it. They're the ones who always think that they're not good enough (sound familiar) or that they're not yet comfortable to do this or that. So they wait and they wait and they they get old and marry fat ugly chicks and retire and die. Nice, huh? Trust me, take my advice. KICK YOUR OWN ASS AND TAKE WHAT YOU WANT *TODAY*! Life is really, REALLY too fvcking short man.


to move on. Also, I am in high school, this limits my choices alot.

You've gotta be kidding me. I'd kill to be back in HS! I'd probably get laid 3x/wk+! Crazy... HS is the easiest place to get laid in the whole world, except for maybe a "party school" college/university. Even so, chicks tend to be in their sluttiest phase in their teens and not in their early 20's. Not to mention that you're surrounded by guys who have absolutely NO idea what they're doing... god, how much more can you ask for?!
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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