"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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**ATTENTION!!** The "Flake Test" is real..

DonGorgon

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Young cute females who are hoing are very afraid of crazy hostile dudes who cant take rejection or no for an answer.. The popular trend they are using these days to test your character is to set up a date/ meeting/whatever and wait till the last minute to flake using a crazy outlandish excuse..

Example.. :

I set up a plan to meet this HB9 ho on monday night at 10pm she told me her address and said i could pick her up and she would come to my house to kickit..

at 8pm i try to confirm she says yes its cool but can i bring her some pain killers.. i say ok

at 9pm she says she has a tooth ache that is terrible so she cant kickit but if i really wana see her i can come and say high for a few mins.. I say no thanks we can reschedule since you are ill.. she says ok tomorrow is fine..

I get her the next night and F closed in 30 mins..

i passed the test cause:

1. i did not interrogate her about her flake excuse
2. I stayed calm
3. I did not accept her lesser offer of a few mins cause that would make me seem desperate.
4. I agreed to do another day
5. I showed no sympathy about her bs tooth ache story..lol (very important) if you are nice they will diss you.
 
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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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yeah I think one flake is ok but two and you're making breakfast :)
 

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Or maybe she wasn't comfortable yet and you had a chance to reassure her. Your actions, not flipping out, showed her that you could be trusted.
 

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ahh very nice. I had a flake situation a while ago except we actually met up and she flaked on me with some excuse "her long time friend was in town" and she promised to buy me a beer next time. I kinda was a jerk about it and was like "if there is a next time."... needless to say we don't talk.
 

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Good advice, DonGorgon.....sucks to have to play games with women these days. But like everything, it all comes back to your inner game. As long as you are confident, secure, and have lots of options...you will pass any test she puts out there for you. Then YOU can decide if she is worthy.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Another sneaky one:

When you first date/meet with a girl, don't accept a Monday-Thursday flake/cancel that includes a FRI/SAT counteroffer by her.

She's trying to sneakily bump herself up to #1 priority for weekends when she does that and then she's going to try to flake on weekday dates in the future.
 

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I can't help but wonder if she was being sincere. Either that or she's a f*cking genius.
 

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steve38 said:
As long as you are confident, secure, and have lots of options...you will pass any test she puts out there for you.
Whether you have "options" or not, doesn't matter(at least with me it doesn't). I can still easily pass a sh*t test regardless of whether I have options. I'm not going to sacrafice my pride and put up with a woman's bullsh*t just because I have no other options. I'll walk away before I do that. What matters here, is how confident and secure you are. As long as you know and believe you're a "cool" guy(in other words, in SoSuave terms, a "prize"), who they'd be priviledged to have, you'll pass their tests. I have zero options, yet my confidence and security always stands by me.
 

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DonGorgon said:
Young cute females who are hoing are very afraid of crazy hostile dudes who cant take rejection or no for an answer.. The popular trend they are using these days to test your character is to set up a date/ meeting/whatever and wait till the last minute to flake using a crazy outlandish excuse..

Example.. :

I set up a plan to meet this HB9 ho on monday night at 10pm she told me her address and said i could pick her up and she would come to my house to kickit..

at 8pm i try to confirm she says yes its cool but can i bring her some pain killers.. i say ok

at 9pm she says she has a tooth ache that is terrible so she cant kickit but if i really wana see her i can come and say high for a few mins.. I say no thanks we can reschedule since you are ill.. she says ok tomorrow is fine..

I get her the next night and F closed in 30 mins..

i passed the test cause:

1. i did not interrogate her about her flake excuse
2. I stayed calm
3. I did not accept her lesser offer of a few mins cause that would make me seem desperate.
4. I agreed to do another day
5. I showed no sympathy about her bs tooth ache story..lol (very important) if you are nice they will diss you.
DonGorgon, how do you know she wasn't serious? It could very well roll that way too. That's the thing, you don't know for sure. However, if I had to bet on it and decipher the validity behind it, knowing women, I'd say your assumption is probably right.
 

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edger said:
It could very well roll that way too. That's the thing, you don't know for sure. However, if I had to bet on it and decipher the validity behind it, knowing women, I'd say your assumption is probably right.
Sure you know...when a woman cancels but does the "if you really want to see me you could spend a bunch of your time to be with me for a couple of minutes" thing it's not an assumption, she's blatantly seeing if you're weak and how high your interest is.

That's SOP for a girl to do that to see what lengths a guy will go. She knows exactly what she's doing.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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ThatMysteriousGuy said:
when a woman cancels but does the "if you really want to see me you could spend a bunch of your time to be with me for a couple of minutes" thing it's not an assumption, she's blatantly seeing if you're weak and how high your interest is.
I forgot about that part. Most likely, yes, just knowing how women are. But it could still roll both ways. Her excuse could have been legit. If it were me personally, I'd have done exactly what DonGorgon did, just to err on the safe side. What he did, can only help his cause, not hurt it.
 

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Or maybe her tooth was just really fvcked up
 

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PHAT Rabbit said:
I suggest that everyone stop reading into all women's actions as some analytic way to "de-game" you. It's funny, when you just relax and aren't outcome dependent you pass all sh*t tests with flying colors. Or you could just ensure to memorize all sh*t test situations so that when you encounter them you act according to XXX poster or XYZ poster.

Simply put... BE don't ACT!
YES!
 

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edger said:
DonGorgon, how do you know she wasn't serious? It could very well roll that way too.
It's simple: it doesn't make a f****ing difference if it was real or not!

Women like men that are emotionally strong. If he showed any sign of resentment over her real or not pain, it would have the same final result.

Very well done Gorgon!
 

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DonGorgon said:

i passed the test cause:

1. i did not interrogate her about her flake excuse
2. I stayed calm
3. I did not accept her lesser offer of a few mins cause that would make me seem desperate.
4. I agreed to do another day
5. I showed no sympathy about her bs tooth ache story..lol (very important) if you are nice they will diss you.



lol , number 3 and number 5 were really good on your part cos these hos will use your balls as a roasted christmas treat if you hand it to them on a plate by acting soft,caring and gentle. They are tired of guys who were brought up watching disney movies and therefore need to be treated in a slightly tough hardline manner especially during the beginning stages of you trying to get an F from them.

Good thread quite educational and informative, you should definitely post more of these kind of experiences and lessons as guys like myself are takin notes lol.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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tafakna said:
It's simple: it doesn't make a f****ing difference if it was real or not!

Women like men that are emotionally strong. If he showed any sign of resentment over her real or not pain, it would have the same final result.!

Realest reply of the thread.. yup... so true..
 

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DonGorgon said:
i passed the test cause:

1. i did not interrogate her about her flake excuse
2. I stayed calm
That's all there is to it. Most AFCs just need to chill out.

Nobody's life is set in stone. People flake. It's not a tragedy.

Understand woman date at a slower pace than man do.
http://www.sosuave.com/quick/tip284.htm <- Good read that explains why
 

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tsmith2334 said:
That's all there is to it. Most AFCs just need to chill out.

Nobody's life is set in stone. People flake. It's not a tragedy.

Understand woman date at a slower pace than man do.
http://www.sosuave.com/quick/tip284.htm <- Good read that explains why
Being flaked on is often a tragedy for men cause most men dont have other optons to call up to replace the women who flakes on a friday night...lol

Women do not date at a plower pace than men do!!!! They date/F alpha ,ales very quickly and move slow with sob par and average men.. If you can make a women perceive you as alpha you will be amazed at how fast to will F you..
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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