"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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attempting a possible threesome but have no place to do it

big weezy

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can you guys give me some tips about what to do in this situation: i picked up these 2 HBs in a coffee place yesterday, 1 brunette, 1 blonde. turns out they were co-workers/friends. they work at a shoe store. before i arrive, other guys were falling over themselves to help one of them get connected to the wifi, then another tried it and tried to pick up as he walked by, very embarrassing and afc. lucky for me i had a table right next to them so i could wait for my moment when one of them went to the bathroom.

i opened the brunette with the whole connecting to the internet thing but not in a afc way, somehow i got into convo about where she's from etc, then her friend came back i said hi to her then began to game them both. it was tricky cos i'd ask one a question and she would answer while the other one looked away at her phone so i switched asked the other one a question and the other looked at her phone, basically my attention was split 50/50 so they dont really know who i was into.. i also managed to get both involved in the convo at the same time. they told me to come visit them at their shoe store excitedly and they'd give me a discount (plus they'd get commission) i did the afc thing of agreeing and i'd bring my friends. (i dont think they were just using me for commission, i sensed they enjoyed my company)

i packed up to leave and i sensed possibly the blonde one was more into me than the brunette as she seemed upset i was about to leave, i number closed both and said we'd meet again and i kissed them both on their cheeks. the blonde texted me her number to make sure i got it (IOI) i really want the brunette tbh and i sensed towards the end she kind of was less interested mainly cos her friend was more interested. as i left i heard them giggle, good sign.

im planning to invite them out to the park and have a picnic the weather is getting warmer here so almost sunbathing weather, im hoping to kino put suntan lotion on them try diff tactics i've built. however 2 problems, the brunette lives with her cousins family so no sex there, i dont know about the blondes living circumstances, and i dont have my own place.

ideally i'd invite both round (if i had a place for drinks and convo) and escalate from there. seeing as i dont have my own place i'm restricted to either a)if im very lucky doing it in a secluded part of the park near the woods or b)back at the blondes. should i bring alcohol to the picnic or is it more likely 1 of them will pull out if she knows her colleague likes me more than she does?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Ok, so basically you are hoping to find a place to have a 3 way when you are a broke, homeless person?

Get a motel.
 

big weezy

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bigneil said:
Ok, so basically you are hoping for a place to have a 3 way when you are a broke, homeless person?

Get a motel.
we dont have motels where i live only expensive hotels etc

i live with my family so that is a no go too. i have the cash but am not going to spring for an expensive hotel or even a cheap one unless it's guaranteed.

i dont know how i can get both to be up for it unless i can escalate in the right place.. i think maybe the park idea is best and maybe with alcohol.

more importantly, have you had a threesome before? how did you manage to escalate with both at the same time so they were down for it?

tbh.. there's a threesome where both girls are making out too and getting involved and there's both of them just servicing me and not each other. how difficult was it to pull it off? i mean like the whole conversation with both did you use jealousy ploys to make them both fight for your attention?
 

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Not quite sure why your going for a three way. Sure it sounds cool, but girls just dont hop into threesomes because they hang out together. Either hang out with the blonde(got IOIs) and bang her or game the brunette. Dont waste it on some fantasy kid.
 

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i'm the only one who thinks he is having a really strong wishfull thinking here?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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IMO you are making a pretty big assumption that just one of the girls would want to date/sex you, let alone both and even more so that you could have a threesome with them. I admire your confidence but I saw nothing in what you wrote that would lead me to believe they would be down for a three way. I think this is your ego talking rather than what is reality.

My bet is if you approach them with this idea, especially so soon after just meeting them, they are going to think you are some major league creep and you will never see them again.
 

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A three way only happens after the following conditions are met:

1) One girl establishes a romantic relationship with you.
2) She sings your praises to her friend(s).
3) One of her friends sees a photo of you or meets you and likes you also.
4) The girls discuss whether they want a 3 way (they must be bicurious to want this).
5) One night the girl you are established with will suggest the three way.

You normally don't just magically hook up with both of them at the same time without warning.
 

Demonpenz

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have sex with them at your parents place. They will get it over with it.
 

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Neil strauss writes about this in his book "the game"
He uses a certain method.
 

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big weezy said:
they told me to come visit them at their shoe store excitedly and they'd give me a discount (plus they'd get commission) i did the afc thing of agreeing and i'd bring my friends. (i dont think they were just using me for commission, i sensed they enjoyed my company)
That is probably what they are doing.

big weezy said:
i kissed them both on their cheeks.
why are you doing that?


big weezy said:
the blonde texted me her number to make sure i got it (IOI) i really want the brunette tbh and i sensed towards the end she kind of was less interested mainly cos her friend was more interested.
she is less interested...and you think you're going to get a quick threesome? lol


big weezy said:
as i left i heard them giggle, good sign.
they could be laughing at you


big weezy said:
im planning to invite them out to the park and have a picnic the weather is getting warmer here so almost sunbathing weather, im hoping to kino put suntan lotion on them try diff tactics i've built. however 2 problems, the brunette lives with her cousins family so no sex there, i dont know about the blondes living circumstances, and i dont have my own place.

ideally i'd invite both round (if i had a place for drinks and convo) and escalate from there. seeing as i dont have my own place i'm restricted to either a)if im very lucky doing it in a secluded part of the park near the woods or b)back at the blondes. should i bring alcohol to the picnic or is it more likely 1 of them will pull out if she knows her colleague likes me more than she does?

LOL dude...you are building this thing up in your head. You have no idea that these chicks are even interested in you at all. You think you have a threesome ready to go? lol Try to ask out the blonde first....see what happens with that.

wtf? booze and a threesome in a park? LOL
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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JoeMarron

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Lol it would be nice if threesomes were this easy. OP if you're able to magically turn two chicks that you opened who showed mild interest into a threesome then I'll crown you the greatest Don Juan of all time.
 

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dumb thread...even if they are interested odds are they aren't both bisexuals....
 
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