At Which Moments Do You Realize That Your Game With Women is Better Than Before?

[Giovanni SouthSide]

For lack of a better term, at what times do you have a “look in the mirror” moment, where you feel as if your game has leveled up?

Is it when you got a hotter chick than usual for the first time again in 5 years ?

Is it when you can deal with a dry spell nonchalantly, because you know from knack experience that something good is just around the corner?

Is it when you're completely unmoved when a woman throws you a serious sh!t test, or acts out in a way that's moved you before, yet this time you remain unshaken ?

Personally, in this current degree in life I’m realizing my game is at a higher echelon when I am nexting chicks, even attractive girls who were probably DTF if I had just tugged their heartstrings an inch more, instead I decided to walk away simply because I found their personalities either unappealing, low quality, slightly disrespectful or possibly manipulative.

Before, I seemed to have a penchant for sticking my d!ck in lacking culture high drama mentally unstable pvssy. Things are changing.

Essentially now I have more natural awareness in knowing that with some women it’s not worth the candle.

Another one is just being naturally at ease around women. That is, I can go up to women and chat without expecting any particular outcome. That means I get a feel for if I'm actually going to like her or not as a person. I've become more selective about which women I date.

What is your “aha” moment where your gut tells you that your game is evolving?

Share your thoughts.

 

[The Duke]

I've had a few stages of evolution over the past 15yrs.

The first stage came post divorce when I finally gained enough knowledge and experience that I was starting to date more attractive women that I coudn't get before. They still weren't anything special. My exwife was far more attractive.

The second stage came when I started dating HB8's that had good brains and less drama.

The third stage came when I started to not care and began to take it all in stride. I stopped taking them so seriously, unless they gave showed me they had more to offer than the average woman. At this point, women really had to earn it if they wanted all of me. I could see thru their smoke screens easily. Most of my dating life, I felt I had more to offer total package wise than most women.

The fourth stage is where I'm at now. Its simply casual, unless she is in the top 10% of all women. I need a woman that brings as much value to the table as I do if she wants me to take her serious. Getting women is easier than ever before. I have rejected more than ever before. My tolerance for their games is very low these days. I'd rather not fuhk some random girl just because I can. The potential fall out that comes with the wrong one trumps my desire to fuhk women I don't really know. And plus, i've done it many times before so the desire to hunt isn't as strong.

I'm very content these days. I've had lots of wild and crazy times with women from my past. I've lived a life most men would love to live. I think I have learned about all I can in regards to women.

Been There, Banged That, Got the scars, Got the Trophy. I'm onto bigger and better things. I hope I can share a few things I picked up along the way to make it easier for others on their own journey much like I was.

 

[Doctor Europeo]

I heard this phrase "luck is when preparation meets opportunity" for the first time in 2015. I liked it and it made sense.

But I didnt really "got it" until much later in life, like late 2021. My story is already out there, no need to post it again here.

Most people never "get it". Opportunities are out there but without preparation you will keep shooting yourself in the foot.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

When I started recognizing patterns in interactions and got to the point where I knew if I was going to fvck the woman or not by the end of the first date with a pretty high percentage of correctness.

And then also being able to recognize how my actions caused those patterns to occur so I could control what happened with more regularity, as long as there was some level of attraction.

Everything in life has patterns. The better you are at recognizing them and being able to control when and how they occur will better your life in every aspect.

 

[Redwood]

I'd say when I started focusing on what I really enjoy doing and parlayed that energy in my interactions. I also cosign the above comment about recognizing patterns too.

 

[plumber]

when i was at peace with it instead of hate it.

it all works just like it should.

 

[tksniper]

Honestly it was when women were gaming me back. Guys have a tendency to think that game is a one way street. But attraction and serendipity is when the woman is equally interested in you and seducing you back.

100% top tier game is you seducing her and her seducing you, and then you realize you are both on the same page.

This is when true romance actually happens. Romance is like tennis. You need a partner hitting the ball back to you and totally engaged in the game and cares about the result.

Romance is not you hitting the ball to women and them trying to dodge it.

 

[Bingo-Player]

When I started seeing under the pretty & innocent facades and started analysing behaviour

Theres a hell of a lot of women out there who are going to cause you a lot more problems than they are pleasure

Social media has been a blessing and a curse for women for over a decade its given access to unprecedented levels of attention and adoration many have been led to believe they sh1t pure gold , and bad behaviour has been encouraged

The curse is that over this time all of this female social media exposure has shone a light on some behaviours that past generations of women would have rather kept under wraps.

Smart women have always used sex as tool to control men , but the difference is past generations preferred not to openly advertise or flaunt this because they knew it would cost them the upper hand.

Todays women have gotten too big for their boots and the pool of simps prepared to entertain It is dwindling quickly.

Too put it simply by bragging about the advantage they have in the sexual marketplace ...women have began to nullify it

 

[BadBoy89]

I always do well in my Game as soon as a woman turns 30.

 

[Vanderdonck]

I'd say when I started focusing on what I really enjoy doing and parlayed that energy in my interactions.

This for me.

 

[Snag87]

When I stopped caring about attracting women. Not telling myself to be aloof and confident around them; when I genuinely couldn’t care less if they stayed or left.

 

[jhonny9546]

Opportunities are out there but without preparation you will keep shooting yourself in the foot.

And there will be so many opportunities, but you have to have strong values if you don't want to mess things up.
It would be good to explain what you mean by preparation; it seems very general and at the same time very important.

started analysing behaviour

The curse is that over this time all of this female social media exposure has shone a light on some behaviours that past generations of women would have rather kept under wraps.

Smart women have always used sex as tool to control men , but the difference is past generations preferred not to openly advertise or flaunt this because they knew it would cost them the upper hand.

Todays women have gotten too big for their boots and the pool of simps prepared to entertain It is dwindling quickly.

Too put it simply by bragging about the advantage they have in the sexual marketplace ...women have began to nullify it

We must admit this is something from a good analysis

 

[Slowhandluke]

Everything in life has patterns. The better you are at recognizing them and being able to control when and how they occur will better your life in every aspect.

this is called wisdom. As we get older, our ability to rapidly crystallize solutions to new/novel problems decrease.. the number of things we can put into short term memory also decreases... BUT we have wisdom and can "pattern match" previous simular situations easier because old people have already probably experienced it before (multiple of times).

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[The Duke]

this is called wisdom. As we get older, our ability to rapidly crystallize solutions to new/novel problems decrease.. the number of things we can put into short term memory also decreases... BUT we have wisdom and can "pattern match" previous simular situations easier because old people have already probably experienced it before (multiple of times).

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It's getting easier than ever to read people. I've learned that there are traits and patterns that are predictors of behavior in people. As soon as I see a few traits or a pattern of habits, I know real quick what kind of person I am dealing with.

 

[DJ Novice]

All romantic relationships are transactional.

Men give up their money, energy, time, freedom, peace and attention for mainly sex (and some companionship when not in the bedroom) and in the long term it’s rarely worth it.

Once women get what they want (usually security and commitment) they tend to put in less effort in the bedroom and other areas compared to the honeymoon or dating phase. This is just human nature (men are also guilty of this) as we are all lazy and self interested to various degrees.

Living and sleeping with the same person is just not that enjoyable eventually. This is a harsh reality that no one likes to acknowledge. Dead bedrooms exist for a reason.

Women will only love you for what you do for them and they are only loyal to their own emotions, not to you or the relationship. Women’s universe revolves mostly around themselves.

Once you stop giving what they want (and most women are never satisfied with the status quo) or they become unhappy or bored with you it’s all over which is why relationships have a 50% failure rate.

The best way to approach women when they say they love you or are happy is to add the terms ‘right now’ as this is unlikely to last.

Women can be very enjoyable for short periods of time but don’t centre your entire universe around them long term as you will usually end up bored, disappointed and/or frustrated.

Always maintain the ability to walk away from women without it destroying you emotionally or financially or both. Love women but don’t fall in love with them.

 

[Slowhandluke]

It's getting easier than ever to read people. I've learned that there are traits and patterns that are predictors of behavior in people. As soon as I see a few traits or a pattern of habits, I know real quick what kind of person I am dealing with.

yes, and as I get older, I notice most people are idiots hahaha.
I can see where their actions will lead them. I also better understand why most people are impulsive. At the end of the day, people 20 years ago, are the same as people today. surprisingly. - types of people dont change as much. Motivations dont change that much.. people are shockingly simplistic

 

[jhonny9546]

The best way to approach women when they say they love you or are happy is to add the terms ‘right now’ as this is unlikely to last.

Women can be very enjoyable for short periods of time but don’t centre your entire universe around them long term as you will usually end up bored, disappointed and/or frustrated.

Always maintain the ability to walk away from women without it destroying you emotionally or financially or both. Love women but don’t fall in love with them.

I think this deserves the best of the forum.

You made a good point about something that is very difficult to do in reality: ambivalence.
How can you as a man live with this ambivalence?

We are men, and you know very well that if you want to live well, you must dedicate yourself 100% to what you do.
So how can you love someone madly, but at the same time not be in love with them?

 

[Gamisch]

When I separated women from my ego


I went on a money making spree and boy oh boy did I learned a lot. Women cant stand when you overtly show they're NOT your priority. Simultaneously they won't decline such a "challenge ".

When women are obsessed with you

It's NOT fun it's not easy going and straight forward. You see; when you're bossing the feck up wonen know inherently you are aiming for the best. Regardless, even if you are fecking hb8 she'll know you're craving ten more hb9's. And your effort and deduction is evident. All her insecurities are triggered at once.

A woman who is obsessed is a pain in the azz, VUT arguably better than the same woman being indifferent ...

The natural flow
At some point, after woman # ...200? you're game around them becomes a second nature, like it's muscle memory. All you need is a tiny bit of acsesss to "kick in the door". Now combine that with the DGAF attitude to walk away and Houston we got a problem.

Most men don't even worry about the women they will/ might get but about the TONS of p00sy they did NOT get all the while it was a simple lay up.

 

[Giovanni SouthSide]

All romantic relationships are transactional.

Men give up their money, energy, time, freedom, peace and attention for mainly sex (and some companionship when not in the bedroom) and in the long term it’s rarely worth it.

Once women get what they want (usually security and commitment) they tend to put in less effort in the bedroom and other areas compared to the honeymoon or dating phase. This is just human nature (men are also guilty of this) as we are all lazy and self interested to various degrees.

Living and sleeping with the same person is just not that enjoyable eventually. This is a harsh reality that no one likes to acknowledge. Dead bedrooms exist for a reason.

Women will only love you for what you do for them and they are only loyal to their own emotions, not to you or the relationship. Women’s universe revolves mostly around themselves.

Once you stop giving what they want (and most women are never satisfied with the status quo) or they become unhappy or bored with you it’s all over which is why relationships have a 50% failure rate.

The best way to approach women when they say they love you or are happy is to add the terms ‘right now’ as this is unlikely to last.

Women can be very enjoyable for short periods of time but don’t centre your entire universe around them long term as you will usually end up bored, disappointed and/or frustrated.

Always maintain the ability to walk away from women without it destroying you emotionally or financially or both. Love women but don’t fall in love with them.

This is mack granite. Chew on it. Sharpen that fang.

 

[jhonny9546]

Women will only love you for what you do for them, and they are only loyal to their own emotions, not to you or the relationship. Women's universe revolves mostly around themselves.

Once you stop giving them what they want (and most women are never satisfied with the status quo), or they become unhappy or bored with you, it's all over, which is why relationships have a 50% failure rate.

This explains why so many women in unhappy relationships will see you, a valuable and attractive man, as an excuse just to get laid, but then, once they've gotten what they wanted from you, they'll go back to their old boyfriend or something else.

This also explains why the most lasting relationships, with very few exceptions, are those where the manipulator always creates things for her to make her chase after him.

Always maintain the ability to walk away from women

This explains why many of these long-term relationships, with insecure men who don't let go when they're disrespected, last so long.
They've become masters at making the relationship seem good and that she respects them, when in fact they take these emotional breaks and tolerate them.