I'm talking about a woman who wants a real man she can be with for the rest of her life, to raise a family and all that. This is not a complain by any means. I'm just wondering which range of women are out there wanting to play or are out there tired of the game.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
At what age do women start thinking of settling down?
- Thread starter vagrant
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Poonani Maker
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Most of the women I've met who are in the "settle down" mindframe are in/from church, and it happens Quick! I mean, dudes don't even know each other that well and Bam, they're married, Bam they're having kids. Churches like to grow membership from within, which even translates to the long, arduous process of raising children IN the church. Churches, even today, "ok" arranged marriages between families within the church. ADDING membership whichever way they can in this less and less church-going country/world is the initiative today. Sacrifice is Big in the church.
aaah how about those that aren't from church?PSYCHO
Banned
It starts at birth - it's a feminine design, The "weaker" always seeks security.
scrouds
Master Don Juan
For a lot of america, its happening after a chick has a kid.
Then she starts looking for a nice beta to have a family.
Then she starts looking for a nice beta to have a family.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Son of anarchy
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I say when she get a 40%+ of bodyfat,thats the time she stop be a party girls and seek for a relationship where the man cant leave without conseguences.
But also scrouds theory its right.
But also scrouds theory its right.
Hughman
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When her looks start going downhill.
...wait, what?
...wait, what?
MisterMcGee
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Women age 15-30/35: Guys go crazy for them. They're hot, got curves, good skin, tight body, perkiness, and so forth. They have incredibly low self esteem, so they keep themselves feeling good about themselves by getting approval by attractive, high-status men.
What happens when they can no longer get this confidence boost? That would suck, wouldn't it.
Women age 30/35+: Don't have the youth they used to have. Men are no longer falling over for them. They cannot seduce a man based on their sex appeal and appearance. A girl who is worth little in the personality/intelligence department will end up unable to hold the interest of a decent man. She'll look for attention elsewhere. She'll find men who will give her attention even though she is nothing more than an aging *****. These are the niceguys (not nice guys, niceguys), betas, softies, and AFCs.
Of course the age given is BS. There's no "Age" limit to this transformation. As long as a woman can hold the interest of hot, awesome, cool guys, she'll take advantage of the amazing feeling it gives her. Being able to sleep with awesome guys makes her feel better about herself because her self-esteem is based on NOTHING MORE than how hot she is to hot guys.
Naturally, when that's no longer possible, she'll lower her standards in order to continue getting that flimsy confidence boost from attracting and hooking in a male - this time, a guy with low standards as well.
When a woman depends on men for confidence, and the man doesn't do what the woman wants her to do (thus denying her that CRUCIAL confidence boost), it's easy to hate cool high-status men as a result.
Story of America.
What happens when they can no longer get this confidence boost? That would suck, wouldn't it.
Women age 30/35+: Don't have the youth they used to have. Men are no longer falling over for them. They cannot seduce a man based on their sex appeal and appearance. A girl who is worth little in the personality/intelligence department will end up unable to hold the interest of a decent man. She'll look for attention elsewhere. She'll find men who will give her attention even though she is nothing more than an aging *****. These are the niceguys (not nice guys, niceguys), betas, softies, and AFCs.
Of course the age given is BS. There's no "Age" limit to this transformation. As long as a woman can hold the interest of hot, awesome, cool guys, she'll take advantage of the amazing feeling it gives her. Being able to sleep with awesome guys makes her feel better about herself because her self-esteem is based on NOTHING MORE than how hot she is to hot guys.
Naturally, when that's no longer possible, she'll lower her standards in order to continue getting that flimsy confidence boost from attracting and hooking in a male - this time, a guy with low standards as well.
When a woman depends on men for confidence, and the man doesn't do what the woman wants her to do (thus denying her that CRUCIAL confidence boost), it's easy to hate cool high-status men as a result.
Story of America.
scrouds
Master Don Juan
Son of anarchy said:
Mine is first hand experience. Want to meet my sister in law?
Prodigy746
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It depends on the girl.. I know plenty of girls that are 18 and have a baby and a fiance.. I also know girls that have gotten married right out of highschool. On the other hand i know girls that are 25+ and not even thinking about merrige.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
I think for most women, it happens somewhere around 27-28. Of course marriage is a bell curve with a few getting married as teens, some get married for the first time after 40, but I think for the majority of women, it's somewhere in the mid to late 20s range. Also depends on where you are too. If you live in a small town in the midwest, that bell curve will be shifted down. If you live somewhere like Miami Beach of Hollywood where eternal youth, beach bodies and beauty are worshipped, probably shifted way later as people want more time to run wild and play. Kids and family tend to have a way of cramping that lifestyle.vagrant said: