"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Askmen.com article on dating hot women

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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None of those are issues to me. Maybe the ego one, but I like that too. They should call the list 'problems you might face dating hot women (if you don't feel you deserve them).
 
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that's the worst article on earth
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agreed... is it just me, or does it seem like men's health, men's fitness, and some others are written by women and metros?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Nighthawk said:
... They should call the list 'problems you might face dating hot women (if you don't feel you deserve them).
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Agreed.
 
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Agreed.
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Like I said, I don't think he is talking about your typical attractive/cute/hot woman, but your stunningly beautiful women (e.g. Natalie Portman, Jess Simpson) look alike. The cream of the cream, the women that have "triple take" faces.

While this article might come across as self-limiting, I think it is reality. Face it, some dudes just don't give a flying fukk and will hit on a girl right in front of you or be an a-hole to you. I think this is more likely to happen if you are with a 9 of 10.
 
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While this article might come across as self-limiting, I think it is reality. Face it, some dudes just don't give a flying fukk and will hit on a girl right in front of you or be an a-hole to you. I think this is more likely to happen if you are with a 9 of 10.
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True but if she's really into you who cares? (Quality) Women are very capable of telling guys that they aren't interested. Besides, if another guy thinks your girl is hot, doesn't it attest to your choice of women?

A healthy ego should keep you from getting jealous or disrespected, especially if you carry yourself in such a way authentically. The interesting thing is that if you do, other guys tend to become jealous and bitter. Better them than you because uncontrolled jealousy and bitterness will drive women away.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Askmen used to be a good site, now it's just a ****hole with most of the articles having backing from some advertiser.
 
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Who writes this crap?

"Prepare to fight other men"
"You'll become insecure"

uhuh...
 
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lol I love this one:

"no-one will notice you in her presence"

Oh, no! my fragile self esteem! I will no longer be the belle of the ball.

Seems like the guy who wrote that article is a virgin...
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Serialized3 said:
Seems like the guy who wrote that article is a virgin...
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seems like the author had a traumatic experience based on his own insecurities and wrote an article generalizing both beautiful women and the men who date them. I'll generalize further a bit by saying that it seems that the target of this article are guys who want to date any hot woman regardless of her personality.

I agree with the points that hot girls get attention, but the rest were all security issues that deal with the guy. Some guys aren't ready to date very beautiful women. There is a balance between jealousy and obsessiveness that guys can cross, with beautiful women it becomes that much more difficult. It comes back to the motives. If you are dating her because you want to and have a healthy relationship (or at least give her as much freedom as you expect) than what good does jealousy serve? The second you start to worry or become jealous of attention is the second you can pin point that relationship starting to die. That said you find the crazy hot chick and the jealous d-bag and they might live together in their own drama for the rest of their lives loving it.

I qualify on attitude mainly, looks second. I wont go for a girl who I dont find attractive, but I wont date an attractive girl with a terrible attitude. I've dated a few headturners (am currently) but only will if they have a personality to match their looks. It doesn't take very long to separate the worthy from the pointless.

Do you think there are more chicks in the 18-35 range who are ugly or average OR cute or hot? Cute being the 7's and 8's, hot being 9's and 10's
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definitely vote for the majority being ugly or average. There is a reason why the word average means what it means (not ugly not cute). I think that most everything outside of the average category tends to fall into personal preference categories. One mans trash is another mans treasure (or soap) type of system. My HB8 might be your HB6 and vice versa.
 
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