“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Asking to kiss her

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What are your thoughts about asking a girl if you can kiss her?

I initially thought that this is a bad idea, but then I read this article which basically proposes that you ask to kiss her and then NOT do it if she says yes, and then kiss her without asking at a time she least expects it.

http://www.sosuave.com/quick/tip186.htm

What are you guys' thoughts on this? I personally think its a question that gives her too much power and pretty much as bad as saying that you are in love with her, but i'm still inexperianced at this and can't really say that i know what i'm talking about.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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There's nothing afc about asking, but again it depends on how you say it.
If here IL is good enough and she isnt playing games, she wont mind.

a good one that works is
"Would you like to kiss me?"
 

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Not sure what you meant by "If here IL is good enough"

but i like the rest of what you say. I like the way you rephrased that question.

Suppose she says "i dunno"..........do you come across that response?
 

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Edit: Bacardi beat me to it.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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BacardiGuy said:
"Well let's find out"
that works

or "shutup and kiss me."

the key is if a girl plays hard to get, take control of the situation
 

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if said in a ****y, playful tone (i.e she and you know that you can obviously already kiss), then it's okay, i guess..not my style though, but i can see pulling it off.

but if you say it with the slightest asking of permission, you mine as well shove your balls into your ass and tell her you have a vagina.

i like to just dominate her with my eyes and go for it like a man.
 

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If you are out on a date. My best knowledge would be she IS interested. So asking really won't be effective. "Can I kiss you" is lame as an ass, unless it is said in a way where you can tell she has been waiting for you to do it, so in effect your teasing her.

Everything is about escalating in my opinion. Hence it goes from kino to some other touching to deep flirting then cheek kissing, you get my drift.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Never ask. There are techniques that can be used to tell if she wants you to kiss here. I also know some tricks to kiss-closing a girl in about a minute:

http://www.sosuave.com/halloffame/hall207c.htm

Here is Swinggcat's 10-Second Kiss Close method:

“Are you adventurous? Are you spontaneous? If you were in kissing
school, what grade would your kissing teacher give you?” (get her
answer) “Let’s find out.” (kiss her)

Here are good sites for finding out when to kiss her:

http://www.kissing101.net/newsletters/newsletter01002.php
http://www.fastseduction.com/guide/04_She_Is_Interested/closing.shtml

Sorry if I'm bombarding you with information, but if you even THINK about asking a girl whether or not you can kiss her, you need all the help you can get.
 
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Why don't you just kiss her instead?

You can tell if she's ready by her body language and communication.


Sorry if I'm bombarding you with information, but if you even THINK about asking a girl wether you can kiss her, you need all the help you can get
Agreed.
Place yourself in the woman's place for a moment and imagine a guy asking you if he can kiss you.
That's just pathetic.
 

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yea. what brought this up really is that i went to this guy's seminar thinking i was going to some standup comedy thing:

http://www.canikissyou.com/

Well it was pretty funny, but it came with a Message. Basically, he says that you can't have consent unless you specifically "ask first", and advocated that you need to VERBALLY ask the girl first if you can kiss her (not to mention have sex). Eventually he was talking about rape and sexual assult, which is what this really was about.

I know he means well, but it doesn't help to have guys like him giving this kind of advice to AFCs and filling the head of these girls that you actually have to ask to kiss them now.

There was a HUGE audience for this guy and appearently most of the freshmen were REQUIRED to attend this seminar as part of their orientation, and i go to this university. So now i have to potentially deal with this propaganda whenever i approach and take people out who went to this, and you can bet there are quite a few "spreading the message".

So I figure I have to prepare for this possibility.
 

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how bout NOT THINKING ABOUT IT SO DAMN MUCH!

ur with the girl, u feel the chemistry, then by all means just be a man and kiss her

if it wasnt meant to be, then the kiss will suck and u 2 will never see each other again.........i cannot believe there need to be TECHNIQUES on what to do right b4 kissing a girl - JUST KISS HER LOSERS
 

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Okay, I've got experience in this and I know that asking for the kiss isn't the way to go. When you feel that she's really into you as you are into her.. Just lean in and kiss her!
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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No, and do you know why? Think about it. When you approached her did you say 'may I spit game at you?' Will you say 'may I stick it in now?' If she doesn't want you to do something, you'll know. Besides, women are weird, illogical creatures. She may say no and really want to. Boo hoo for you.





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HEY jaymo!

Can I reply to your post?....
























How does that sound? Or should I have just replied?! Get it?

However; I do think asking her if she wants to kiss you is ify...funny....but would save that for Kiss #2 or #3....

First one should say "yea I kissed you"! "Me" "your daddy" "now kiss me again or we are moving on to spankings".... You Dig?
 

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yea i see what you mean.

I guess the consensus is that it's doable if you ask the right way, but you're better off not asking.
 

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Holland said:
Why don't you just kiss her instead?

You can tell if she's ready by her body language and communication.




Agreed.
Place yourself in the woman's place for a moment and imagine a guy asking you if he can kiss you.
That's just pathetic.
This is as true as it can get....thank you for saying it....I was thinking the samething:up:
 

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As an above poster says a girl has already told you the answer to the question b4 you ask it by her body language. By asking, you're just showing you don't know how to ready women. Not good.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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