"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Asking in non-needy way?

keemojung

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My girl invited me to join her trip to the sea with her working friends.

I asked her, can outside people like me join their trip?

She said, they can.

But, few days later, she then told me that maybe I can't join the trip

as there will be some executives of her working company join the trip.

Thus, outside people like me can't join the trip.

Actually, I want to join the trip, not because of her, but because

her friends are really cute.

My question is " How do I ask her whether I can still join the trip without

being looked needy or desperate?"

Thank you for every suggestion.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Never ask for dates. Offer dates. Say "if you play your cards right you might convince me to join you on your trip".
 

keemojung

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bigneil said:
Never ask for dates. Offer dates. Say "if you play your cards right you might convince me to join you on your trip".
It's not really that I ask her for dates. I just wanna ask her

if I can still join the trip, but How? The main reason is I wanna meet her friends which are cute. Dating with her is like an extra bonus.

So, what's your suggestion, sir?
 
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