"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Asking if a girl is a virgin.

Nighthawk

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Its not sarcastic, it's true. You really think she's going to say 'well, I f*cked this guy with a massive d*ck and I have a STD and actually I'm a bit of a sl*t?'

STDs aside, to worry about comparing yourself to her previous lovers, and idealising a virgin as the answer to these insecurities is simply AFC.

Think before you base your life around this rubbish. [gay emoticon]
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Even if you ask, how would you know if she's telling the truth?

I don't think it matters.

Believe it or not, some women have asked me "Are you a virgin?" (no joke!).

I always try to dodge the question, change the subject, or ignore the question. But one time I couldn't do any of those things. I was stuck. So I lied. I really am, but at my age it's embarrassing so I said I wasn't. I figured I wasn't going to get lucky anyway so they'll never know. Even if I did and she found out, she'd realize why I lied.

This is coming from a guy who does his damnedest not to lie, since I believe honesty is important.
 

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Tonight she invites me over to her house and tells me no one will be there. I find it odd how she keeps giving me these cues but then again shoots me down when I go up her shirt.

Should I try again tonight or not try to and leave her guessing why I'm not doing it?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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You know what, you got a life to live and if a girl is going to be on guard constantly (as opposed to a couple times) you might as well throw in the towel and start looking for girls who are more receptive on having sex/fun/being more communicative towards you.

Remember, it's your life. You get to choose what type of job you work in, You get to choose what type of education you want to learn, You get to choose what type of girl you want that will make you happy.
 

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Should I say something if she turns me down again? If so what would you say (in reality, don't give me some weird ass line that you wouldn't say but you think is the ultimate C&F ball buster)?

A quick reply would be appreciated as seeing as I gotta go to work soon and I'm hanging out with her after.
 

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I'm a bit late in the thread, but I'll say my bit anyway. It really shouldn't matter to you if she is a virgin or not...it doesn't mean a thing about the sort of girl she is, just like it doesn't matter if a guy is a virgin or has been with 50 girls, it doesn't change who you are...

Now the resistance you are getting could be for a number of reasons (like you are both pretty young, she might just not be ready) so I wont give too many specifics. When I've been in this situation I usually just do the ol' 2 steps forward, 1 step back until I have broken through the resistance. There are a lot of things you can do with your clothes on that will drive her wild. Work on kissing her, pulling back, biting her neck, running your fingers through her hair, massaging her, nibbling her ears, dry humping while moaning like a porn star...eventually she will indicate she is ready and you can dive right in
 

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no no no!

You don't ask a girl if shes a virgin. You find out by tasting it!

Seriously though, I think that would make her uncomfortable. If shes 19 or under, then it would be ok. If not, wait till she tells you. If she doesn't, just go for sex with asking.
 

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I made some progress last night. While I didn't get to take any of her clothes off, I did undo her bra and she let me caress her tits under her shirt for a good while. I also go under her pants and massaged her ass while making out.

Eventually she kept pulling my hand out of her pants and shirt but I just kept going back after a while. I'd say I made some progress.

I'm sure the next time the shirt is coming off.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Girls are weird man. Lots of them are very self concious about their bodies. I bet she is just self concious about her tits. I knew this girl one time and she used to let me see her psvvsy ALL the time, but she would never let me see her tits. I asked her how come I never get to see her tits but I do her psvssy and she said, "because I don't like my tits." I bet that is her problem.

Another thing I find weird about girls. Another girl was giving me a bj and she was fine with it, but when I went to kiss her neck, she pulled away like she was disgusted. Point being, girls make no sense.
 

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I'm sure she's just really self-concious. She'd let me fondler her bare ass more than she would her gigantic fun bags.
 

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Is twice too much/enough of her per week? I want to keep seeing her but I don't want to over do it like many guys do.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I think I'm making progress. She let me whip out one of her tits the other night and let me play with her exposed nipple. Also the other day she let me rub her cooter outside of her pants for about two minutes before pulling my hand away.

I'm starting to like her less everytime she doesn't do anything remotely sexual (*******, handjob, sex, etc.)
 
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As I stated in my first post - she is a hor!!!!
 
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Itishe, riddle me this - why does she allow sexual contact????? Because she wants sexual pleasure from anyone!!! She is a hor!!!! You are the next pimp in line - be patient!!!!! It's. errrrrrrr,she's coming!!!! :rolleyes:
 
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Just ask, "Are you a virgin?" Thats what I do when I wanna know.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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