Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Asking for a chick's number

TubularBells28

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Hello all, this is my first post here, so a little bit of background.

I am an 18 year old College freshman at a major University in Nevada. I am a psychology and english major, and while I haven't had much luck with the ladies in HS I am hoping that things will be better here.

Anyway, I have two more classes left for the day and am wondering this; what is the best way to ask a girl for her number. I did ask a chick for her number after English in this context, "I got to go, but why don't you giive me your number so we can talk later." She replied with saying, "I don't give my number out to anyone. Did I do anything wrong with my approach?

I have no problem talking and chatting with girls, and hell I am not afraid of even cold approaches. What I do have trouble with is asking for a chick's number. I don't want to sound too agressive in making it awkward and I sure as hell do not was to be a p ussy and give her my number telling her to call me back. Please give me some advice.

Well, off to class.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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You seem sorta cool, we should hang out sometime. What's your number?
 

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I don't give my number out to anyone.

It's a test. Acceptable replies include (and other people will add their own):

until now
and then you met me
It'll be ok. Just write it down

After you reply, look into her eyes, give her a sly smile, and wait for her response. The seconds will seem like hours, but make her answer you. If you piss her off, she was probably an uptight b!tch who would have been a waste of time anyway.
 

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Originally posted by Bible_Belt
I don't give my number out to anyone.

It's a test. Acceptable replies include (and other people will add their own):

until now
and then you met me
It'll be ok. Just write it down

After you reply, look into her eyes, give her a sly smile, and wait for her response. The seconds will seem like hours, but make her answer you. If you piss her off, she was probably an uptight b!tch who would have been a waste of time anyway.
Money!
 

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Meh, I got burned by the second girl I asked. I got this really wierd, bug eyes look whilst normally she has narrow eyes.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Did I do anything wrong with my approach?
I don't know, what was it like? Supply some more context. What sort of conversations are you having with these women? Phone numbers mean next to nothing to most of them, so you might be asking way too soon. I love a good conversation, so I've never tried to see the minimum amount of time it takes to get a number from a girl. I imagine (at least for me) it is around one minute of exceptional conversation, or two minutes of average conversation.

Some advice: There is no substitute for a phone number. Screennames, e-mail addresses, and friending on the Facebook are not acceptable.

If you're having a good conversations but still aren't getting results, don't ask--demand: "Give me your number [make up a reason if you want here]." Some girls are too shy to respond to a mere request (are you talking to other freshmen or experienced college women?), and others just have to be ordered around.

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Arioch: Tall. Long. Great.
 

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Sophomores, both of em.

I have a little fear of being demanding, I don't want them to think of me as a jerk. They are after all nice people.
 

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This one is from SmoothPlayer056:

Just ask for her number so in case that you miss class and/or you forgot the homework you have someone to call and won't fall behind.
 

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^^actually, I did that with the second one.

She said she is dumb when it comes to hw though :confused:
 

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Standard animal crackers # close:


"Give me your number"

Then just SHUT UP NO MATTER WHAT SHE SAYS.

Actually...I've only been refused once, she said bf...


Now as far as meeting up...thats another game. #'s aren't shlt. I suggest gaming girls you meet in class MUCH MORE and then just suggesting a meet when they seem attracted/comfortable with you.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Originally posted by TubularBells28
I have a little fear of being demanding, I don't want them to think of me as a jerk. They are after all nice people.
Then your problem is you are afraid of being a jerk. You are a Nice Guy. Well, get over it, I was a Nice Guy too (I still lean quite a bit to the nice part of the Nice-Jerk continuum), and it will get you nothing except pain. Being nice is good, but being assertive of yourself and getting what you want is more important. I'm not asking you to lie, or manipulate. Just be assertive.

Second, so long as you don't bark your demand like a drill sargeant, no one will even notice. Just put it in the flow of the conversation: "Blah blah blah, you seem to have some interesting ideas, give me your number so I can talk to you more about them later." That wasn't the best example, but something like that.

Third, how big is this school? Big enough to care what a couple of girls too stupid to see how cool you are think about you?

If you really can't do it, try a hybrid: "Why don't you give me your number?" It's still a question, but the way it is phrased it indicates you want an explanation. Of course, you've gotten those already, so how about, "When can I call you?" which indicates you expect to have their number already, or the mildly demanding, "You should give me your number."

Disclaimer: I really don't know exactly which ones of these I've used. I've never had much--no, any--trouble with this to give it this much thought.
 

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Yeah, I also said, "Why don't you give me your number?"

And my university? 29000 students.
 

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Originally posted by animal crackers
Now as far as meeting up...thats another game. #'s aren't shlt. I suggest gaming girls you meet in class MUCH MORE and then just suggesting a meet when they seem attracted/comfortable with you.
Watch out, if you don't have their number they will feel absolutely zero accountability if they decide to stand you up.
 

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Originally posted by TubularBells28
And my university? 29000 students.
You still haven't detailed your approaches much.

At 29,000 students, just forget about what anyone thinks about you, especially if you're a freshman. They won't remember you, they won't care, they'll be gone before you are.

And try it out on some other freshmen right now. They're much easier because they are all trying to meet everyone they can, and also the upperclassmen will be less interested simply because you are a freshmen. Going out with a freshmen when you're not one can feel like babysitting.
 

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^^I'll detail my approaches and bump the thread tomorrow, I got a lot of hw to do.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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