"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Asked someone out offline - first time in three years!!!

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Congratulations to myself!

I asked out a girl at the office and she said yes.

First person asked out since June 2003 - OFFLINE.

Hooray! Now I have to follow up with it later. Also have another offline prospect from the same office.

Worried about dating office people though, unlike internet, if you really screw up, you have to see them again forever.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Desdinova said:
Good stuff! :up: Just don't tell your dad, or he might c0ckblock you again.
:crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

Wait a second, he just might....

Listen to Des, tell NOONE!
 

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Good job.

Man I am proud of you. I didn't expect you'd change so I gave up on you. But that's what it is all about, asking in real life.
 

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Luke Skywalker said:
Congratulations to myself!

I asked out a girl at the office and she said yes.

First person asked out since June 2003 - OFFLINE.

Hooray! Now I have to follow up with it later. Also have another offline prospect from the same office.

Worried about dating office people though, unlike internet, if you really screw up, you have to see them again forever.

So why are you dating people you work with? I happy it worked out for you, but you should really avoid talking to women you with. Things can go really bad.


Can you share the details of number close and how you got a date?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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congraulations bro, whos the lucky guy?
 
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congrats, how did it all go down?
 
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Field report:

g: "I haven't seen you in the office in a long time, are you ok?"
ls: "I had to deal with some family issues, anyway, I'm starting back out now".
g: talk -- acting warm and affable.
ls: "Would you like to go out for coffee sometime?"
g: "Yes".
ls: "Great, I'll get back to you once I have my schedule sorted out, btw, can I have your cell number".
g: "I'm at the office most of the time."
ls: ok.
Good rapport taste when leaving.

Point is I asked someone out. Once I'm ready to pursue it, well, I guess I'll just pursue it, the next time I see her in the office.
 

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Luke Skywalker said:
...Point is I asked someone out. Once I'm ready to pursue it, well, I guess I'll just pursue it, the next time I see her in the office.
Yeah, but why didn't you just ask her out for today or tomorrow? What's going to make you ready to pursue it?
 
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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Yeah, but why didn't you just ask her out for today or tomorrow? What's going to make you ready to pursue it?
Once I start going to the office regularly, and start going from the morning to the evening, then I'd feel more comfortable about taking her someplace for lunch or out for coffee during the course of the day. If I'm at home and tending to my mom or doing something else then it sort of puts me off balance.

Anyway, I intend to pursue this, I didn't plan on asking her out, it just came out of my mouth and was actually surprized it even happened as I intended just to talk with her, not to ask her out, so I went further than I expected and am doing something totally out the box.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Luke Skywalker said:
...Anyway, I intend to pursue this, I didn't plan on asking her out, it just came out of my mouth and was actually surprized it even happened as I intended just to talk with her, not to ask her out, so I went further than I expected and am doing something totally out the box.
You should really consider running with things when you're on a natural roll. It's as is you are more comfortable when you aren't concerned with everything else that is going on in your life.
 
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asked out 18 y/o secretary....

I tried chatting up the 18 y/o secretary, and it seemed that she liked to chat with me, so I asked her out, and said "would you like to go out sometime for coffee?"

She replied that she doesn't go into coffee shops but only hangs out with her friends inside cars.

I decided not to pursue to ask her if she wanted to hang out with me inside my car outside the coffee shop and got cold feet since, well she works at my office and she's 18 y/o and.....well.....I guess I'm not sure how I would proceed with that one.
 

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If you think its wise to date women at work, it's probably not a good idea to ask more than one woman out at a time. Women talk.
 

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Celadus said:
If you think its wise to date women at work, it's probably not a good idea to ask more than one woman out at a time. Women talk.
They'll still talk even if you ask them out one at a time. It can be a difficult thing to deal with if things don't work out with any one of them.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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