"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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As a girlfriend?

WORKEROUTER

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I have been doing a lot of stuff with this girl, and we pretty much act like girlfriend/boyfriend, but have never really talked about ourselves being in that kind of relationship. I wouldn't mind having a relationship with her. Do you guys ask a girl to be your girlfriend (seems pretty AFC), or do you wait for her to mention it?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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cactus3178

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Wait for her to bring it up.
 

Adrian

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MAKE HER bring that sh!t up. DJ her until she can't take anymore and asks YOU.
 

Adrian

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well.... I make it sound easier than it seems, don't I?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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ok the hard and fast rule is to DJ the girl until she asks you

the thing is, from my experience, is that you must also be aware of the type of girl you are DJ'ing. I DJ'ed a girl for ages, it drove her crazy, but she never brought up the relationship thing (which i was cool with), but when she stopped letting me kiss her / didn't respond, it started to piss me off.

in the end, it turns out that all she was waiting for, was for me to mention somethings. the reason for this, is that she was the shy type of girl that didn't want to assume anything, and her values basically meant she would try to refrain from kissing a guy unless he asked her out first.

needless to say, i DJ'ed her for ages, and ignored her for a week / played cold games with her, and she was really upset and mopey over me. eventually i told her to come over, and i asked her out cuz i could see how mopey and disraught she was. she later told me that she wouldn't have made a mve if i had continued to ignore / DJ her, despite her interest in me.

so KNOW what the girl you're chasing is like. some girls would be more direct than the one i'm currently dating

it is good to DJ constantly to keep her on her toes, but some women will not speak no matter what. SO kNOW if she's a HOE and not giving it up to u cuz she has no interest ---- or if she's interested, but she's just too shy and wants the guy to make the first move.
 
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