MatureDJ
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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Moreover, women have made it clear they don’t need a man to support them, to be happy, or even to become a mother.
If women don't need a man, why should they care if they can't find a man to marry them?And that’s just the women who were fortunate enough to find husbands in the first place. Others put off marriage indefinitely — until they decide they want a baby. Trouble is, they can’t find men who are willing to marry them.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Because the Bible says, to avoid fornication, people should marry. (1 Cor 7:2)zekko said:And why should men marry?
Relax man we all already are married....to the State. I'm doing my bit bringing home the bacon to LaFawnda's 3 alpha sprog thuglets. God can rest easy.corrector said:Because the Bible says, to avoid fornication, people should marry. (1 Cor 7:2)
Rollo says that and then he claims he's not anti-marriage.zekko said:A few quotes from the article:
If women don't need a man, why should they care if they can't find a man to marry them?
And why should men marry? As Rollo often says, there is simply no advantage to marriage for a man. Not in today's world.
True enough. Anyway, marriage in the traditional sense no longer exists. Women will not respect the vows. They will file for divorce as soon as they become bored, or feel inconvenienced, have a bad day, become attracted to someone else, or decide you are not providing them with the Prince Charming existence they feel they have been promised, and are entitled to.( . )( . ) said:Relax man we all already are married....to the State. I'm doing my bit bringing home the bacon to LaFawnda's 3 alpha sprog thuglets.
Heh, funny. But I always figured Rollo came to his conclusion after he was already married. Marriage is good for the child though, or rather it can be. Although that is still not necessarily the same thing as being an advantage for the man.Boilermaker said:My point is, if you are smart enough, all your arguments (even the ridiculous ones) become tenable.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
I'm pretty sure she didn't advocate that or allude to that in the article. She just merely pointed that while the main stream is lauding the rise of the single female, in reality is is that they are:Wilko said:Fairly accurate observations by Miss Venker. It's her analysis of those observations that irks me a bit. Like many traditionalists who decry the decline of marriage, she is very keen to hitch men to the yoke once again. No thanks.
And as a consequence, men are responding by shunning marriage and commitment.feminists are inherently insecure women who demand validation for their unusual choices.
Taiyuu, you're right, I re-read the article and I have misattributed some of the positions discussed to Venker herself. Good pick up.taiyuu_otoko said:I'm pretty sure she didn't advocate that or allude to that in the article.
Don't forget you're helping out fat ass Susie May and her 4 little redneck daughters Anna Lynn, Sissy Lynn, Mary Lynn and Honey Boo Boo as well.( . )( . ) said:Relax man we all already are married....to the State. I'm doing my bit bringing home the bacon to LaFawnda's 3 alpha sprog thuglets. God can rest easy.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
this may be true in theory but a fantasy in reality.Boilermaker said:Maybe we're mad at the feminists because they figured out their inherent advantages? Like if every women in the world would withhold sex for a month the world would go insane?...
All men deserve at least common courtesy. It's for your own good. Disrespect the wrong stranger, and your pleasant morning will suddenly turn into a life-and-death struggle for survival. Wouldn't you rather live in a society where all men are pleasant to one another? Of course you would.Boilermaker said:I think we should somehow learn to -at least- think about the nature-based idea that
men can indeed be disposable to some extent.
The female may indeed inherently be more important from a biological standpoint. Maybe we're mad at the feminists because they figured out their inherent advantages? Like if every women in the world would withhold sex for a month the world would go insane?...
I am obviously not coming from the "feminine imperative", but I sometimes wonder what OUR position in this is ...
Why is a male to be respected, worshipped or followed UNLESS he's an ALPHA?
Just because you have a swinging dìck doesn't entitle to you to shìt in real life anyway, why would it be any different from a feminine perspective?
I don't like the socialistic idea of "defending all men's rights" really. I don't want to be defending enablers, white knights, manginas, pvssies, drug addicts
and deadbeats.
Why am I fighting with women for the sake of these basterds? They are increasing my value, after all !
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.