Are you the chump who is being exploited by women?

[rascal99v]

Women exploit men as chumps everyday to do their dirty work. They find some sucker to do the job for free. Women use men for their own personal needs. That is their nature. Hot women exploit men all the time. Because they know men will be stupid enough to do whatever they want for them. Once these guys do what these women want, the women laugh at 'em under their breath and go about their business

Women will intimidate men into paying for their expensive meals. They will use chivalrous quotes making you feel obligated to pay for them. "A man always pays for a woman" and sh1t like that. So, the dude gets suckered into flipping his cash for the date because he is too afraid to stand up for his own beliefs. Most of the time you don't get laid anyway. So why be afraid to stand up to her?

Women exploit the men they see as chumps. Because they know the men are too weak to say no to them. So, they use their pvssy as the power to hold over these guys. Funny thing is that these chicks have no intentions of giving you any. They create an aura that if you do this for them, there could be a benefit for you in doing that good deed. Usually there never is.

Then all these dumb guys break their necks trying to do favors for 'em. The guy says "Oh, I think she likes me why else would she want me to do this for her?" She needs a chump to do what she needs. And you are it to serve her purpose as her personal slave. What do you get out of being a nice guy? Nothing. She will thank you and laugh at you for complying to her wishes. You are a slave to her. Free of charge. And nothing more.

I was at the post office and this chick got a bunch of packages. She turned to this other guy and asked him "Would you help carry these for me?" The guy without hesitating said "sure" and walked out with her. The dude probably had a boner thinking he was going to get laid for his chivalry. She told him to put them in the back of her trunk. He did what she said. Then she thanked him and got in her car and closed the door. The dude stood there like an idiot as she drove down the lane of the parking lot. Another chump who was exploited by a woman because he wanted to be "nice" for a hot woman.

Men who do favors like that for women are chumps. That is how women look at you. They think of you a chump. Just like the dude at the post office. The only purpose you serve for them is a to be a slave to do their menial work. And all these idiots jump at the chance to do it for them. :crackup:

Don't be afraid thinking you are being rude, if you don't do what she asks. Who cares. Don't be exploited. Let some other chump do her dirty work instead. She won't be mad that you are rude. She will be mad that she couldn't get her way because of the inflated ego that she has of herself. Guess what? She might even respect you for not being a chump. Women fvck the men that they respect. They exploit the chumps that they don't. So don't be a chump.

The only favor she should want is letting you fvck her for your good deeds. If you're not getting any sexual gratification out of the simple favors you do, then you are being exploited as a chump. Pure and simple.

 

[skinnyguy]

Sounds a little bitter but point well taken

 

[Dgwizdal]

Girls love a guy that will open the door for them with a slap on the ass as she passes thru.

 

[El Payaso]

As always, outcome independence is the mindset to have here. Do nice things because it is the right thing to do or you feel like doing something nice. Don't do something nice expecting money, sex or whatever in return.

That's the difference between a guy who only opens doors for women expecting them to f*ck him and the guy who opens doors for everyone just because it's a nice thing to do.

 

[PeasantPlayer]

Was going to say I agree with some of OP post but Payaso well said

As always, outcome independence is the mindset to have here. Do nice things because it is the right thing to do or you feel like doing something nice. Don't do something nice expecting money, sex or whatever in return.

That's the difference between a guy who only opens doors for women expecting them to f*ck him and the guy who opens doors for everyone just because it's a nice thing to do.

 

[Bingo-Player]

i agree with the OP however its a pretty basic observation of modern society

women hold no power in this world other than whats in theyre pants this a fact no matter how you sugar coat it

so can you blame them for taking full advantage of that ?

nahh but you can sure as hell have some fun getting in there

if some guys are stupid enough to fall for theyre manipulations then of course chicks are gonna keep beta orbiters

fortunatley for us DJ's theres billions of women out there who are more than happy to give it to us with very little work

 

[adam225]

Good post OP.

"Skinnyguy" - it is exactly how it is bro. Never be a womens b1tch.

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

eh, I don't mind helping out the ladies when it's simple menial manly tasks of course. There's a difference between helping out and being used.

There's also a difference between carrying some boxes and carrying her purse.

Guess it's just up to you to decide.

Either way, if you're doing it as a means to get laid, then follow Dgwizdal's plan.

 

[Syrio]

I think there is definitely some truth to what you've written here but it's not as bad as you make it out to be...

I was at the post office and this chick got a bunch of packages. She turned to this other guy and asked him "Would you help carry these for me?" The guy without hesitating said "sure" and walked out with her. The dude probably had a boner thinking he was going to get laid for his chivalry. She told him to put them in the back of her trunk. He did what she said. Then she thanked him and got in her car and closed the door. The dude stood there like an idiot as she drove down the lane of the parking lot. Another chump who was exploited by a woman because he wanted to be "nice" for a hot woman.

This isn't exploitation... she asked a guy for a very small favor. To refuse to do this favor would be very rude and pretty unacceptable in today's society. I doubt he was expecting to get laid or even get anything in return. Sometimes people do nice things without expecting anything in return...

If she had asked him for money to send some mail or something, that would be more along the lines of exploitation. And yeah, things like that happen all the time, but it's not every woman. I have a lot of female friends and they sometimes ask me for favors. I usually help them out, and they always give me something in return (like buy me a drink or a meal or something). Even if it's a favor that takes like five minutes and I tell them they don't have to get me anything, they'll insist. There are plenty of good women out there if you can find them.

Unfortunately, however, the women that you are describing definitely do exist. Personally, if a woman (or man, really just any person for that matter) asks me for a reasonable favor I will most likely do it. I will usually expect them to return the favor on their own accord and if they do, that's awesome. If they don't, I'm significantly less inclined to help them out the next time. This has worked well for me and I think it is the way to go.

 

[El Payaso]

I think there is definitely some truth to what you've written here but it's not as bad as you make it out to be...



This isn't exploitation... she asked a guy for a very small favor. To refuse to do this favor would be very rude and pretty unacceptable in today's society. I doubt he was expecting to get laid or even get anything in return. Sometimes people do nice things without expecting anything in return...

It is rude and pretty unacceptable to tell a woman you don't want to do her request??? :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

 

[Chase24]

It is rude and pretty unacceptable to tell a woman you don't want to do her request??? :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

I think Syrio meant in this context it is rude. The way he said it I saw it as this "chump" was about to walk out of a post office and a girl couldn't carry all her boxes out and asked for help. In that case, unless you're in a rush or have your arms full, yea, it's probably a **** move to say no. You can say no, and probably walk away thinking you're so alpha but in reality you're only saying no so that you seem in control.. which is the exact wrong attitude. Not AFC to do something as long as you do it for the right reasons. But carrying a box and expecting sex is just asinine.

However if it's one package and she can obviously carry it herself but just wants to make someone carry it for her- then yea, screw her.

 

[Syrio]

It is rude and pretty unacceptable to tell a woman you don't want to do her request??? :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

If someone (regardless of gender) politely asks you for 30 seconds of your time to help carry something, the generally accepted polite response is help them. Just imagine if you were in that situation... if someone nicely asked you for assistance carrying something would you tell them no? If you did, you would appear as an @sshole to everybody in earshot. Like I said, the socially normal thing to do is just help the person. I hope you have a better understanding of what I was saying now.

I think Syrio meant in this context, it is rude. The way he said it I saw it as this "chump" was about to walk out of a post office and a girl couldn't carry all her boxes out and asked for help. In that case, unless you're in a rush or have your arms full, yea, it's probably a **** move to say no. You can say no, and probably walk away thinking you're so alpha but in reality you're only saying no so that you seem in control.. which is the exact wrong attitude. Not AFC to do something as long as you do it for the right reasons. But carrying a box and expecting sex is just asinine.

However if it's one package and she can obviously carry it herself but just wants to make someone carry it for her- then yea, screw her.

Exactly... Chase beat me to it haha

 

[VikingKing]

If someone (regardless of gender) politely asks you for 30 seconds of your time to help carry something, the generally accepted polite response is help them. Just imagine if you were in that situation... if someone nicely asked you for assistance carrying something would you tell them no? If you odid, you would appear as an @sshole to everybody in earshot. Like I said, the socially normal thing to do is just help the person. I hope you have a better understanding of what I was

Exactly... Chase beat me to it haha

syrio is a female

 

[Syrio]

syrio is a female

No.

 

[VikingKing]

No.

I dont mean this as a personal attack to hurt your feelings, also im not acussing you of being a homosexual. That said, the things you post cause u to have the apperance of a beta faggot. Ur not going to change the general beliefs of this forum. If what u think is right, then go live ur life and fvck off.

 

[El Payaso]

syrio is a female

Well known fact.

 

[adam225]

I dont mean this as a personal attack to hurt your feelings, also im not acussing you of being a homosexual. That said, the things you post cause u to have the apperance of a beta faggot. Ur not going to change the general beliefs of this forum. If what u think is right, then go live ur life and fvck off.

:yes:

 

[rascal99v]

This isn't exploitation... she asked a guy for a very small favor. To refuse to do this favor would be very rude and pretty unacceptable in today's society. I doubt he was expecting to get laid or even get anything in return. Sometimes people do nice things without expecting anything in return...

How do you know? Were you there? She had like 4 or 5 packages and she had no problem lifting them. She looked at the dude and asked him to do it. For some chicks it's beneath them to do anything. So, they have somebody else do it for them. I was walking behind them both after they went out the door. The dude was trying to throw some game at her. He was a little stunned after she blew the him off.

Opening a door is a lot different than being used.

I remember in High School how chicks used dudes to help them get good grades. They sat there and made a little sad face until the guy gave in and did it. They pretended to be nice to them, and after they got their grade, they had no more use for 'em.

They start out at a young age and continue on until they lose their looks. They know some men will do their dirty work for them, that's why they have them do it.

 

[Syrio]

I dont mean this as a personal attack to hurt your feelings, also im not acussing you of being a homosexual. That said, the things you post cause u to have the apperance of a beta faggot. Ur not going to change the general beliefs of this forum. If what u think is right, then go live ur life and fvck off.

Actually you're wrong again. The posts here that are the most "beta-faggy" by far are:

1, the personal attacks, just as you are attempting to attack me now (whether you'd like to admit it or not).

2, the pessimistic women-hating posts. Being alpha and being a DJ does not involve whining on the internet about how women frustrate you and you hate all of them.

I didn't invite you to come here and get all butt-hurt about my legitimate comments on this thread. You need to calm down and quit crying at me.

P.S. Your post is pretty womanly actually... the beginning is very passive-aggressive. Unlike what I've written, that actually IS characteristic of women.

 

[Syrio]

How do you know? Were you there? She had like 4 or 5 packages and she had no problem lifting them. She looked at the dude and asked him to do it. For some chicks it's beneath them to do anything. So, they have somebody else do it for them. I was walking behind them both after they went out the door. The dude was trying to throw some game at her. He was a little stunned after she blew the him off.

Opening a door is a lot different than being used.

I remember in High School how chicks used dudes to help them get good grades. They sat there and made a little sad face until the guy gave in and did it. They pretended to be nice to them, and after they got their grade, they had no more use for 'em.

They start out at a young age and continue on until they lose their looks. They know some men will do their dirty work for them, that's why they have them do it.

I wasn't there so you're right that I don't actually know - I was speculating. I mean it's possible that she was trying to take advantage of him but I just kind of doubt it. I suspect that your view of the situation was a little biased, but whatever that's besides the point.

Like I said, I definitely agree that some women do what you are saying. In my experience though, the vast majority do not. Is this really so common in your life that you feel it's accurate to believe that all (or even the majority) of women try to take advantage of men by faking sadness or manipulating them in some other way on a regular basis? I guess a lot of women do this sometimes but in my experience this is rarely an issue. If it ever is an issue, it's usually very recognizable and easy to fix.