"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Are you Selfish?

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Ok this selfish thing I find very pedantic.

I mean surely we are all selfish to a degree.

Surely selfishness and altruism sit at opposite ends of a spectrum with individuals being at different points but no one ever being completely selfish or completely altruistic.

Why is it that I always hear women say 'I do not like him anymore or cannot be with him anymore as he is selfish'?

How do you know if you are too selfish and when is this a problem?

* I am not saying how does one become unselfish to please a woman.

Discuss!
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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It depends whether you want everything yourself or if you want everything from everyone else.
 

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"Self-love is not so great a sin as self-neglect." - Henry V

And BTW, there is no such thing as altruism - even self-sacrifice is a form of hedonism. Stop kidding yourself. The women who complain about selfishness are themselves selfish in their complaint, but your thread does point out an interesting dynamic. The time honored, oft quoted AFC question, "why do Jerks always get the girls?" finds it's roots in this selfishness.

Understand selfishness is a realitve term and subjective to who you're applying it to. Is a guy an A-Hole for miserly counting every cent and persistently striving to achieve his ambitions at the expense of whatever women find him attractive and choose to be associated with him? Is he selfish if his accomplishments benefit her? How much more valuable is the attention of a man like this when he does express it?

What of a woman who withholds her intimacy and/or sexuality in order to modify the behavior of the men they're either directly or indirectly involved with? Are they selfish?
 

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Rollo...

Thanks. I needed to read that.
 

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Are you 'Shallow"?

This topic kind of touches on some other things I've been writing about lately. One of which is this subjective notion of what is 'shallow' and what is not. The term 'Shallow' is one of those epithets that women almost exclusively own and have found very useful for a long time for qualifying both sexes. Rarely do you hear a man use this term - however I wouldn't discount it entirely considering men's pandering to the feminine identity these days.

So what is being 'Shallow', is it the opposite of 'Deep'? How often do you hear a woman refer to a man, (or woman) other than in a mocking tone, as being Deep? Women don't selectively use this term (if at all) to describe the opposite of 'Shallow' because it isn't as useful as it's negative. 'Shallow' is generally a term used to imply superficalness of/or someone who puts themselves or other interests above what they think ought to be universally understood as 'important' or a self-evident truth - at least insofar as their wellbeing is concerned.

Really, Shallowness is a subjective descriptor, but in this instance, 'Shallowness' is yet another latent socio-psycological tool used by the female sex to, once again, self-regulate men.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Originally posted by Rollo Tomassi
"Self-love is not so great a sin as self-neglect." - Henry V

And BTW, there is no such thing as altruism - even self-sacrifice is a form of hedonism. Stop kidding yourself. The women who complain about selfishness are themselves selfish in their complaint, but your thread does point out an interesting dynamic. The time honored, oft quoted AFC question, "why do Jerks always get the girls?" finds it's roots in this selfishness.
I tried to explain this to my last g/f who had on several occasions accused me of being selfish.

She just couldn't grasp the concept that we are ALL selfish, even when it APPEARS that we are doing something for the benefit of others.

People who are honest and unapologetic about looking out for #1 are more worthy of respect in my book. It's those who think they are above everyone else due to their selfless nature who are hypocritical and deserve the negative label.

This isn't to say that you should go around screwing people. Actually, quite the opposite. Most of the time the greatest benefit for yourself is derived from cooperating with others to help them get what THEY want. Sometimes two plus two equals a lot more than four.
 

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Re: Are you 'Shallow"?

Originally posted by Rollo Tomassi
The term 'Shallow' is one of those epithets that women almost exclusively own and have found very useful for a long time for qualifying both sexes. Rarely do you hear a man use this term - however I wouldn't discount it entirely considering men's pandering to the feminine identity these days.
Actually, my buddies and I use the terms "Shallow" and "Deep" to describe women all the time.

Example:

"Did you hit that last night, Dawg?"

"Tssh... you need to ask?"

"Yo! How was it?"

"She's a little too deep for my taste, but at least she's clean."


I guess I'm "Shallow" around the guys, and "Deep" around the ladies.
 

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The tongue in cheek? "motivation" book "Looking out for No 1" by RJ Ringer contains an amusing analysis of social interactions.

The premise of the book is that before you consider doing anything for someone, ask yourself what's in it for you. If the answer is nothing, the author says don't do it. His theory unfortunately lacks the the requirement of Karl Popper, that it should be falsifiable. He explains for example, that helping someone in demonstrable need is satisfying a personal need by making one feel good. Unfortunately, he can't explain why all of the behavior he says should be avoided can't be explained in similar terms.

He is forced into this position because he doesn't want a devotee of his belief system to be demeaned for lacking human decency. It is his answer to his critics, but it doesn't solve the problem.
 

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pure selfishness is the key to self-fulfillment.

ultimately, anything nice you want to do for other people you do because of the way you feel/see yourself/etc. So yes, altruism in its poor form is BS, and selfishness is the true human nature.

Its also what build this civilization that we live in. Without selfishness we'd still be fvcking cavemen (and i don't mean that in a good way)
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I'm not so sure that 'selfishness' is the path to fulfillment per se, but I would encourage 'enlightend self-interest' - I can't truly help anyone else until I can help myself.

Hedonism is the natural state of man (and woman).
 
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