"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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"are you mad at me?"

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There's this girl, hooked up with her once, then called her to go out again (too soon) and she lost all IL. I start ignoring her, sometimes saying hi if I see her. Tonight I wave to her and she comes up to me and asks if I am mad at her. I ask her what would give her that impression, she says "You never talk to me anymore!", I jokingly go into the whole, "Okay then, how have you been?" blah blah blah with her for a few minutes, and she was digging it somewhat, but I didn't really stick around to see.

My question : What is the proper response to this?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Originally posted by calvran
...asks if I am mad at her...

What is the proper response to this?
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Dont answer her and say this right back to her.

Are you mad at me?

--Lan
 
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You failed the test.
 
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Originally posted by Evil-Rom
You failed the test.
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I understand that he did fail it..

But perhaps you could enlighten him as to what would have been a good response?
 
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Dude... I just posted what he could say. There isnt much better than that bro. Its called a **** test JUST in case you didnt know that.

How to pass a **** test a la TD

1. DYD Style: The answer she wants followed by something sarcastic.
HB: Where were you last night?
You: At home all night thinking about you...... but then I got bored and called over 10 strippers..
Plays on her emotions and disarms her anger initially. You give her the answer she wants, but save you from looking like a biotch following with the sarcasm.

2. Immitate her tonality, facial animations, and body language.

3. Ignore her comment.

4. Withdraw - It has the potential to convey that you have other GF's or can at least get them.. Shows her she is replaceable..

--Lan
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Usually when girls say "Are you mad at me..." you can safely assume they mean, "Are you not going to be my friend just because I'm disgusted by the thought of romance with you?"
 
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LoL Squirrels... I had to read that a couple of times before I understood what you were saying.. Its probably because Im up WAAAY past my regular bed time...
 
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The perfect answer...

"Should I be?"

Let her show her cards first and then you can retort appropriately...
 
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Originally posted by squirrels
Usually when girls say "Are you mad at me..." you can safely assume they mean, "Are you not going to be my friend just because I'm disgusted by the thought of romance with you?"
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brilliant
 
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Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
The perfect answer...

"Should I be?"

Let her show her cards first and then you can retort appropriately...
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I dont agree with this because it puts you in a supplicating frame.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
The perfect answer...

"Should I be?"

Let her show her cards first and then you can retort appropriately...
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I kind of agree with Lan on this. This appears somewhat of a ****y indirect way of implying that you are mad, yet not stating directly that you are.

if you want to presetn to the girl that ur not pissed.
try this: "why would i be?"

it shows u havent lost your cool and that having a grudge or soemthing against her is completely oblivious to you.
 
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No no no...

refer back to my first post on the thread. That is HOOP THEORY at work.

--Lan
 
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Originally posted by Lan
I dont agree with this because it puts you in a supplicating frame.
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How so? You're asking as if you could care less what she has done since what ever it was has not bothered you enough to even notice. How's that supplication? :confused:
 
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When you say that, you have accepted HER frame. Its just like a **** test. Thats why you use hoop theory.
 
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I still don't get it. Seriously, bust some knowledge on me...

(That's "Ol'skool" for you young bucks).
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Originally posted by squirrels
Usually when girls say "Are you mad at me..." you can safely assume they mean, "Are you not going to be my friend just because I'm disgusted by the thought of romance with you?"
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Like many posts on these boards, a gross generalization.
 
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