"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Are you Good-Looking???

Don_Joffe

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If you people want to see my pic, just drop your e-mail address.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I'd like to think so, but I don't believe it. I've had tons of girls tell me they liked me or had their friends tell me for them. I've been told by girls going by in cars and even gay dudes in the past have liked me. I have no confidence and have had pretty much no success in this field so I have a hard time believing so.
 

Casino

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im 5'10 - 5'11 so that puts me taller than most girls i encounter.

brown hair/blue eyes.

I'll tell you this as a cautionary tale. When i was in good shape I had girls coming after me. I went through a serious depression and gained weight and the girls stopped knocking.

so my advice is to put yourself in absolute best possible shape and mindstate. do that and the girls will be coming after you because your personal self esteem will rise.
 

Jay-X

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Originally posted by jakethasnake
Work out more. If you had about 15 pounds more muscle on you, I think a lot of Italian girls will think you're very hot. I know for a fact that the ragazze Italiane love the azzuri eyes, which you have. Lucky you. Just get more buff, you'll have Italian girls kicking your door down. That's some objective advice from a straight Asian dude. Good luck!
thanks for the advice, man! actually, i'm pretty thin (135 lbs for 5'9:)), i'm tryin to get to 155lbs before summer, but that's quite hard!
 

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yo im really good looking, i may sound arrogant but seriously i am.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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ScrewIt

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Originally posted by Jay-X
thanks for the advice, man! actually, i'm pretty thin (135 lbs for 5'9:)), i'm tryin to get to 155lbs before summer, but that's quite hard!
dude you dont look skinny at all, im 5'10" 132lb and i look somewhat skinny. but i pack all muscle and an awesome 6 pack ;)
 

S0LID

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http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=172364

body pic

some bad pics

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=482

under a bright light to show my spots errrrrr

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=481

skinny!!!!
oldish pic, I'm gonna highlight my hair like this again soon,
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=133106

I'd say I'm not bad looking, depends whos looking at me. Coffee doesnt taste the same to everyone. To some girls I'm stunning, to others I'm ugly. I'll pull a 9, and next week get turned down by a 6. Some of you guys will strive for perfection in your looks, but at the end of it, after all the muscle, expensive hair cuts, perfect skin, nice cloths LOADS of girls will think your ugly! You must accept this. YES look your best, but don't search for approval. How can you approach when 1 grl calls you cute, when in your head you dont want her proved wrong?

I wont say I'm good looking, i wont say I'm ugly, i will say my fave quote though, "some will, some wont, so what?"
 

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Originally posted by jakethasnake
Bro, I've already deferred to your awesome greatness and championship-calibre face. And then you say that you're uglier than my 'Jackie Chan Mini-Me' face? You're just confusing me now...


Are you a hottie or an ugly turd? :confused:
Well, you might beat me on "cuteness", but I think I beat you on hairstyle. I don't think anyone appreciates the "Moe Howard" look from the Three Stooges anymore.

I guess it's pretty easy to confuse a stain like you. If you have any more comments, lets keep them to Private message so we don't detract from the board. I'd be more than happy to debate further with you.
 

thefonz

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I'm proud to say i got more muscle than all you guys, even though i'm not the most physically attractive, jay-x got me beat you sexy bastard. i say we keep these threads to a minimum because the more we focus on our looks the lower our self esteem becomes

P.S- anyone ever been told they DON'T have attractive eyes?
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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theSpeculator

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Originally posted by skeeloo
now this thread is kinda becomming gay.
Yep, and I started it.

What makes a guy good-looking?

While it is true that girls perception of attractiveness is different guys, it is not difficult to understand. A girl likes a confident looking face.

Girls like a masculine face. Brad Pitt is good looking because his face appears very confident looking (rugged looking, chiseled cheekbone, protruding chin etc). His eyes has a certain allure as if he was analyzing what he is seeing (a feature common with highly confident males). Go see Troy, and pay close attention to his eyes to get an idea.

A feminie looking guy can be consider cute, hot, or handsome; but will not be attractive to most girls. Look at Ryan Seacrest (Sorry, I am watching "american idol" as I write this). He can be consider handsome; but not attractive because he does not have that confident look that Brad Pitt has.
 

Layla

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Yeah speculator, There was a thread some time ago that had a website that showed what made a man attractive. I'll try a search for it,

The site said that large cheekbones, a tan, nice eyes, good shape in the mouth, etc.
 

Tha Realnezz

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Originally posted by theSpeculator

With Tha Realnezz, I could tell he was full of $h1t from the context and style of his posts. All the things he has said were incongruent with my experiences.
1.That's a horrible pic of me.
2.I haven't seen your pic,homie.
3.Why would I lie?
4.I'm not the one asking the dumb questions.
5.If you beleive women are honest and get shy are nice around guys they like ...and stay that way even after they are ignored,you lack experience.

lol,you prolly think racism is make belive too..
 

BLUEox117

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Originally posted by thefonz
I'm proud to say i got more muscle than all you guys, even though i'm not the most physically attractive, jay-x got me beat you sexy bastard. i say we keep these threads to a minimum because the more we focus on our looks the lower our self esteem becomes

P.S- anyone ever been told they DON'T have attractive eyes?
good question.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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theSpeculator

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1.That's a horrible pic of me.
Then post a better picture! We've already know what you look like, so there shouldn't be problem with showing us another picture.

2.I haven't seen your pic,homie.
I don't need to prove myself to anyone. I never ask anyone to post their picture. Of course, besides you. That is because you are the only one making a load of bull$hitt claims without any evidence to back it up.

3.Why would I lie?
I think it's because you are a loser with an inflated ego.

4.I'm not the one asking the dumb questions.
The title was not a real question. If I wanted to ask that I would've put it inside the body of my post. I wrote it to catch people's attentions.

5.If you beleive women are honest and get shy are nice around guys they like ...and stay that way even after they are ignored,you lack experience.
I am nice to everyone I meet. I treat everyone like equals. That is probably why no girls have treated me badly.

You said you ignore the ugly girls. The reason why girls are mean to you is because you are an a$$h0le and a loser.
 

Dominus

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I've been told I'm good looking.

One ugly chick I know told me I should be a model. I think she just had an over inflated opinion of me, but I suppose that if I actually took care of myself, I might have a chance, but I think I'd rather keep that as one of those things "that I could do" rather than try and fail. ;)

Last summer, I caught a few of my female coworkers staring at my ass. One of them (who was married, so she didn't care) tipped me off. Then, the girl that I ended up dating said that she got in an argument with her friend over which one saw me first. This was a few weeks before I even knew she existed.

Anyway, overall, I'd say that I'm a decent looking guy. But I honestly have to put effort in to it. Otherwise, I tend to look like ****, IMO.

Anyway, here're some decent pictures of me.

This one's me (on the right) goofing off with my friend (on the left). Its not a great picture of me, but its a terrible picture of him. He looks like a skeleton.
http://community.webshots.com/photo/211722427/211723545lVukcQ

This one's me at work last summer. I'm the guy behind the counter holding the duck, obviously.
http://community.webshots.com/photo/211727658/211727658LKvzaw

This is my patented "awww, you're so cute" picture. 6 year old nephews are handy like that.:D
http://community.webshots.com/photo/211711799/211713420zKPRsL

There're other pictures in my albums there, but don't think they're as good.
 

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theSpectulator, if you're gonna talk crap about someone else's appearance based on one photo, then be a man about it and post one yourself. I don't have a problem with either of you, but talking smack while being safe from retaliation is a weak thing to do.

as for this thread, wow. I've never seen so many people flex their e-penis in one thread before. you guys need to get out more. who cares if one girl thought you were cute. did you end up sleeping with her? did she make you breakfast in bed? does she call you every day asking you to come over? if you answered no to any of these questions, you're probably way too focused on your appearance, to the point where you're neglecting your game.

peace.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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