Are women delusional and excessively picky?

[sangheilios]

I'm not sure if this observation of mine is common, but it seems like to me women have a delusional sense of their value and attractiveness, and because of this are excessively picky.

For instance, I was checking out some profiles on an online dating site out of curiosity found an interesting trend. Many of the women were single mothers, not particularly attractive and with "average" body shapes, meaning slightly overweight to chubby. What I noticed was that they had a checklist of demands for what they were looking for in a man as if they were in a position to expect such things.

I've noticed in the real world that women would rather be single and dateless then take up a nice and genuine guy up on his offer for a date. Seriously, you'd rather stay home with your cat watching TV then go out mini golfing or bowling with someone who wasn't a creep lol. However, to get the validation they need they go and upload a few half naked bathroom selfies onto instagram, only to later complain about not being able to find a guy.

I'm 6'4", in shape and attractive and don't get dates very often......and I know what it's like for more average guys out there. This post isn't about something that happened, as I haven't approached a women in a good amount of time, but it's something to consider.

 

[marmel75]

Well honestly I think your issues are that you come across as a needy little puppy dog to women which is why you keep having issues. No women wants a guy like that no matter how attractive.

 

[sangheilios]

Well honestly I think your issues are that you come across as a needy little puppy dog to women which is why you keep having issues. No women wants a guy like that no matter how attractive.

What does that have to do with the topic of this thread?

 

[marmel75]

What does that have to do with the topic of this thread?

A lot because your threads are usually related to the same thing. You being good looking and tall but having trouble getting a woman to go out with you.

The basis of this thread come from those experiences.

 

[sangheilios]

A lot because your threads are usually related to the same thing. You being good looking and tall but having trouble getting a woman to go out with you.

The basis of this thread come from those experiences.

That still doesn't relate to what I mentioned about women on dating sites having a checklist of demands when they bring nothing to the table.

Women are excessively picky, the point is if they look for excuses to reject something is wrong. Guy is only 6'1" and not 6'2" plus, not good enough. Guy doesn't have a million jokes, rejected. Guy is a yankees fan and not a red sox fan, rejected lol.

 

[sosousage]

you need instagram tier pics for online dating just saying

 

[sosousage]

yea its unfair but what can you do just adapt

 

[sangheilios]

you need instagram tier pics for online dating just saying

I was just checking it out to see what was on there, I've never put any focus on online dating at all. The quality of women on there was pretty low, and addition to this they actually had the checklist of demands, which I mentioned on the original thread.

 

[sangheilios]

yea its unfair but what can you do just adapt

I don't even bother that often, I'm genuinely not attracted to the vast majority of women, after all more than half of adults in the U.S are overweight or obese. The birth rate is going to be so low in the next couple decades. Western women.....there is just something wrong and I don't really know what it is, literally nothing is good enough.

 

[Billtx49]

I was just checking it out to see what was on there, I've never put any focus on online dating at all. The quality of women on there was pretty low, and addition to this they actually had the checklist of demands, which I mentioned on the original thread.

If she has a checklist on her dating page, she’s obviously overthinking things and using the same mindset that she would use in shopping for a dress or purse…
She’s not delusional, but her approach to dating is completely wrong, or more likely, it’s her preemptive sh|t test for you to get past in your initial convos.…

 

[sangheilios]

You noticed wrong. Hot women are dating all the time.

Really, I've known of women who'd get asked out and they'd shoot the guys down for really stupid reasons. Then they'd proceed to complain about where all the good men were.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Really, I've known of women who'd get asked out and they'd shoot the guys down for really stupid reasons. Then they'd proceed to complain about where all the good men were.

They didnt deserve a good man.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

They're dating bad men lol

Thats what they wanted

 

[sangheilios]

They didnt deserve a good man.

A lot of them don't.

They're dating bad men lol

I honestly think it's entitlement, they think they deserve this perfect guy when they don't even bring half of those things to the table.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Thats what they wanted

And they complain about it and waste good dudes time.

 

[resilient]

We’ve mentioned this in other threads. She’s picky because the market is flooded with oversupply. Too many thirsty dudes out there desperate for dates and they know it. It’s easy for them to dismiss quickly if they aren’t won over initially by a guy’s pics, charm/humor/wit or convo opener.

Take your strategy offline and expand your social networks. I plan to do more of that in 2019 when I have more free time. I’ll continue to use OLD just as a muse supplement.

I’ve heard of relationships and marriages that formed from OLD when it was initially taboo and just getting started. Now, in recent years with the rise of so many dating sites and apps, I haven’t heard of friends starting LTRs from OLD. They mostly complain like us on here about flakes, deception, manipulation, and/or getting ghosted from low quality women. That’s either from messaging or not winning them over enough with chemistry to land a second date.

If they’re picky... don’t get bitter... just simply move onto to the next profile.

Recently, I’ve been believing that I’m going to have a higher chance of starting a relationship with someone that I meet IRL. Social proof by a friend, organization, common interests and hobbies. We probably will meet at a party, church, or through a mutual friend. I think in person there is a more social investment with core connections that leave them wanting to see where things go and give the relationship a fair chance.

I feel like with online dating persons, if it doesn’t work out after a few dates, sex isn’t good enough, or whatever insert reason, she’s quick to next. A huge dating red flag i’ve also picked up in the last few months in the women i’ve dated is a serious lack of communication. As another poster said, that isn’t just a red flag, it’s a black flag and a hard next.

TL DR, screen just as hard yourself and pass on those low quality chicks if that’s what you want. Be patient. It’s cliche, but it’s a numbers game. You’re weeding out low quality chicks and she’s weeding out low quality dudes. Welcome to OLD, lol.

 

[sangheilios]

We’ve mentioned this in other threads. She’s picky because the market is flooded with oversupply. Too many thirsty dudes out there desperate for dates and they know it. It’s easy for them to dismiss quickly if they aren’t won over initially by a guy’s pics, charm/humor/wit or convo opener.

Take your strategy offline and expand your social networks. I plan to do more of that in 2019 when I have more free time. I’ll continue to use OLD just as a muse supplement.

I’ve heard of relationships and marriages that formed from OLD when it was initially taboo and just getting started. Now, in recent years with the rise of so many dating sites and apps, I haven’t heard of friends starting LTRs from OLD. They mostly complain like us on here about flakes, deception, manipulation, and/or getting ghosted from low quality women. That’s either from messaging or not winning them over enough with chemistry to land a second date.

If they’re picky you, don’t get bitter. Move onto to the next profile.

Recently, I’ve been believing that I’m going to have a higher chance of starting a relationship with someone that I meet IRL. Social proof by a friend, organization, common interests and hobbies. We probably will meet at a party, church, or through a mutual friend. I think in person there is a more social investment with core connections that leave them wanting to see where things go and give the relationship a fair chance.

I feel like with online dating persons, if it doesn’t work out after a few dates, sex isn’t good enough, or whatever insert reason, she’s quick to next. A huge dating red flag i’ve also picked up in the last few months in the women i’ve dated is a serious lack of communication. As another poster said, that isn’t just a red flag, it’s a black flag and a hard next.

TL DR, screen just as hard yourself and pass on those low quality chicks if that’s what you want. Be patient. It’s cliche, but it’s a numbers game. You’re weeding out low quality chicks and she’s weeding out low quality dudes. Welcome to OLD, lol.

I don't use online dating, but every so often I might just check it out and see what's on there. Every women I have met and dated was a result of a cold approach in the real world, mostly gym and at nightlife venues.

Lack of communication, or the ability to do so properly, is definitely a red flag, which you mentioned. I've been in a couple of situations with women that turned into a massive waste of time and energy due to their inability or unwillingness to actually communicate in an adult manner. "I'm not looking for a relationship right now" yet continues to go out of her way to engage with me. "I just want to be friends" yet later proceeds to put her leg on my lap and puts my hand on her thigh.

 

[Tilex]

Dating women online is like winning the lottery.
Why take chances when the odds are highly stacked against you?
You know how many messages she gets online? 100/1
You know how many messages she gets in person? 2/1
Do the math.

If you were a gambler, where would you have higher chances of winning?

 

[curtsilv]

I'm not sure if this observation of mine is common, but it seems like to me women have a delusional sense of their value and attractiveness, and because of this are excessively picky.

For instance, I was checking out some profiles on an online dating site out of curiosity found an interesting trend. Many of the women were single mothers, not particularly attractive and with "average" body shapes, meaning slightly overweight to chubby. What I noticed was that they had a checklist of demands for what they were looking for in a man as if they were in a position to expect such things.

I've noticed in the real world that women would rather be single and dateless then take up a nice and genuine guy up on his offer for a date. Seriously, you'd rather stay home with your cat watching TV then go out mini golfing or bowling with someone who wasn't a creep lol. However, to get the validation they need they go and upload a few half naked bathroom selfies onto instagram, only to later complain about not being able to find a guy.

I'm 6'4", in shape and attractive and don't get dates very often......and I know what it's like for more average guys out there. This post isn't about something that happened, as I haven't approached a women in a good amount of time, but it's something to consider.

The answer is absolutely yes. Read my post on a female friend I just posted. This is a girl I just met. She wants me to look out for her all night and treat her like a princess buying her drinks, enduring flirting with 5 other guys all night and then I'm supposed to be her safe ride home after she gets wasted and gives every guy who talks to her blue balls. The price I'm supposed to pay is that I have to watch her flirt with every other guy all night so I can MAYBE (ok probably) get laid.

I gave her a taste of her own medicine and she couldn't handle it. I didn't even dial it up that much. Maybe 3/10 in intensity on my end.

 

[curtsilv]

Not to mention, I have several fat female friends/acquaintances who think they are 'entitled' to me just because they've invited me to a few parties here and there. They act extremely possessive even though I'm barely friends with them, barely talk with them, barely even know them. They shout down other more attractive girls and even actively try to intimidate them.

These women are crazy. They think they own you even though they just met you. You don't even want to know how far gone the average women is these days.