Are we too bitter or are we just realistic?

[glass half full]

perhaps an ex begged her way back in.

that's what happens sometimes when I date someone. I dated a girl once who was crying on my shoulder the last time we went out, her ex was bugging her and she couldn't handle it.
Guess what? She went back to him. Life is weird like that.

 

[SuckItUp]

Sometimes I just worry that SOME of the guidance offered here will actually attract females that are more wishy washy than "stable" - and from what I read, those of you that are looking for LTRs have difficulty with females that come off interested and then pull back without reason

That is certainly a valid point. I think too many here don't do the inner game work that is needed to enjoy life in the fashion they ideally want. Most seem to prefer to learn tactics to attract good looking women without filtering them, which can lead attracting cluster B women.

 

[sodbuster]

Scara, They were improving them by then. The 70's were a bit of a wake up call for them....

 

[englishman]

You all want quality women, I get it. And you deserve that. Sometimes I wonder if some of the communications on here dont lead to self defeating behavior.

Then every female is judged based on preconceived notions without really being given a fair shot. And these preconceived notions are subtly communicated to the female (body language, conversation, etc), which has the effect of repelling her, and then the man feels as if he was right about everything. self sabotage almost

That's always been my concern.

I think its a good point you make.

Often women who are into feminism and man disliking will do the same thing..... They are a bit damaged from the get go and all too ready to find fault with you and then say "told you so" then walk away even more convinced that men are all bad.

Often nowadays men seem to be doing the same thing, I get it that we can be ruined by a relationship gone wrong.... in my life I've been totally phuked over in relationships and before the manosphere I was a total pvssy..

Being upset and frapping the years away gets dull though.