"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Are we too bitter or are we just realistic?

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perhaps an ex begged her way back in.

that's what happens sometimes when I date someone. I dated a girl once who was crying on my shoulder the last time we went out, her ex was bugging her and she couldn't handle it.
Guess what? She went back to him. Life is weird like that.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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sazc said:
Sometimes I just worry that SOME of the guidance offered here will actually attract females that are more wishy washy than "stable" - and from what I read, those of you that are looking for LTRs have difficulty with females that come off interested and then pull back without reason
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That is certainly a valid point. I think too many here don't do the inner game work that is needed to enjoy life in the fashion they ideally want. Most seem to prefer to learn tactics to attract good looking women without filtering them, which can lead attracting cluster B women.
 
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Scara, They were improving them by then. The 70's were a bit of a wake up call for them....
 
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sazc said:
You all want quality women, I get it. And you deserve that. Sometimes I wonder if some of the communications on here dont lead to self defeating behavior.

Then every female is judged based on preconceived notions without really being given a fair shot. And these preconceived notions are subtly communicated to the female (body language, conversation, etc), which has the effect of repelling her, and then the man feels as if he was right about everything. self sabotage almost

That's always been my concern.
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I think its a good point you make.

Often women who are into feminism and man disliking will do the same thing..... They are a bit damaged from the get go and all too ready to find fault with you and then say "told you so" then walk away even more convinced that men are all bad.

Often nowadays men seem to be doing the same thing, I get it that we can be ruined by a relationship gone wrong.... in my life I've been totally phuked over in relationships and before the manosphere I was a total pvssy..

Being upset and frapping the years away gets dull though.
 
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