"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Are sociopaths, ie "bad boys" really AFCs after all?

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I was doing some internet research on the whole nice guys vs. bad boys thing and found a website about sociopaths and narcissists, and remember reading a thread here proclaiming sociopaths to be the ultimate Don Juan. However, reading the below descriptions of how these guys acted towards these women, some of their actions seemed very AFC to me. Some of them professed their love or even proposed marriage on the first few dates, etc.

http://thepsychopath.freeforums.org/what-red-flags-did-you-miss-t10765.html

How do these women tolerate these losers, but yet I can't even get laid?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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It depends. People aren't usually 100% AFC, or 100% DJ, or 100% bad. They usually have aspects of each.

Remember there's a difference between a jerk who makes the woman feel bad, then tells her that he loves her to keep her sticking around, and the kind of "bad boy" who just does whatever he wants, and if the woman sticks around, good for her.

If you've seen Rebel Without A Cause, James Dean's character is a good example. He's generally nice, but he doesn't let anyone even think about walking all over him.
 

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I think bad boy is a bad term for what you should be.

Real man is probably best. You don't have to go around showing off how "bad" you are. That works for some sad individuals but I can't see it working for a 39 year old virgin.

What you can do is be so into life (family, friends, hobbies, fun) that you naturally attract women that want to be a part of your life. Then you have the confidence and "badness" to come into a relationship on equal terms. Or just your terms.
 

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A "bad boy" cannot control who or what he lashes out at. This is why this person has a lot of legal and social disputes. It can get him a lot of girls, however he is not in control of himself. You don't have to be a bad boy to be a man. A real man will call out a "bad boy" on his own BS and not back down in the face of jack assery. As for myself I will try to be a bit more courageous in my dealings and not back down from arguments just for the sake of avoiding confrontation.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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oakraiderz2

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I dont think anyone should be too concerned with sociopaths on a site like this.
 

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39year_old_virgin said:
How do these women tolerate these losers, but yet I can't even get laid?
They provide excitement, and are emotional roller coasters. Chicks are naturally addicted to it. They love having their emotions stirred around, good, and bad. Nice guys dont do that, thats why they dont get laid as much.
 

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If one answer makes you feel better, take it and believe it.

When the need to get your ego stroked passes and you realize that it's only you who matters, stop giving a fvck. This kind of thinking is meaningless.
 

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39year_old_virgin said:
I was doing some internet research on the whole nice guys vs. bad boys thing and found a website about sociopaths and narcissists, and remember reading a thread here proclaiming sociopaths to be the ultimate Don Juan. However, reading the below descriptions of how these guys acted towards these women, some of their actions seemed very AFC to me. Some of them professed their love or even proposed marriage on the first few dates, etc.

http://thepsychopath.freeforums.org/what-red-flags-did-you-miss-t10765.html

How do these women tolerate these losers, but yet I can't even get laid?
Forget everything else. If they're getting laid atleast they aren't AFC.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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