"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Are sociopaths, ie "bad boys" really AFCs after all?

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I was doing some internet research on the whole nice guys vs. bad boys thing and found a website about sociopaths and narcissists, and remember reading a thread here proclaiming sociopaths to be the ultimate Don Juan. However, reading the below descriptions of how these guys acted towards these women, some of their actions seemed very AFC to me. Some of them professed their love or even proposed marriage on the first few dates, etc.

http://thepsychopath.freeforums.org/what-red-flags-did-you-miss-t10765.html

How do these women tolerate these losers, but yet I can't even get laid?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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It depends. People aren't usually 100% AFC, or 100% DJ, or 100% bad. They usually have aspects of each.

Remember there's a difference between a jerk who makes the woman feel bad, then tells her that he loves her to keep her sticking around, and the kind of "bad boy" who just does whatever he wants, and if the woman sticks around, good for her.

If you've seen Rebel Without A Cause, James Dean's character is a good example. He's generally nice, but he doesn't let anyone even think about walking all over him.
 

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I think bad boy is a bad term for what you should be.

Real man is probably best. You don't have to go around showing off how "bad" you are. That works for some sad individuals but I can't see it working for a 39 year old virgin.

What you can do is be so into life (family, friends, hobbies, fun) that you naturally attract women that want to be a part of your life. Then you have the confidence and "badness" to come into a relationship on equal terms. Or just your terms.
 

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A "bad boy" cannot control who or what he lashes out at. This is why this person has a lot of legal and social disputes. It can get him a lot of girls, however he is not in control of himself. You don't have to be a bad boy to be a man. A real man will call out a "bad boy" on his own BS and not back down in the face of jack assery. As for myself I will try to be a bit more courageous in my dealings and not back down from arguments just for the sake of avoiding confrontation.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I dont think anyone should be too concerned with sociopaths on a site like this.
 

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39year_old_virgin said:
How do these women tolerate these losers, but yet I can't even get laid?
They provide excitement, and are emotional roller coasters. Chicks are naturally addicted to it. They love having their emotions stirred around, good, and bad. Nice guys dont do that, thats why they dont get laid as much.
 

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If one answer makes you feel better, take it and believe it.

When the need to get your ego stroked passes and you realize that it's only you who matters, stop giving a fvck. This kind of thinking is meaningless.
 

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39year_old_virgin said:
I was doing some internet research on the whole nice guys vs. bad boys thing and found a website about sociopaths and narcissists, and remember reading a thread here proclaiming sociopaths to be the ultimate Don Juan. However, reading the below descriptions of how these guys acted towards these women, some of their actions seemed very AFC to me. Some of them professed their love or even proposed marriage on the first few dates, etc.

http://thepsychopath.freeforums.org/what-red-flags-did-you-miss-t10765.html

How do these women tolerate these losers, but yet I can't even get laid?
Forget everything else. If they're getting laid atleast they aren't AFC.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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