"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Are dates pointless in college

Ringleader41

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I know plenty of guys banging girls and they haven't even taken them on a date yet. Yet, other guys are taking the same girl on dates and she goes back to banging the guy that doesn't take her out at the end of the night. This girl has been hooked on my friend for about a month and he told me he has never been on a date with her,
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I didnt go on any dates in college. I would just invite girls over for a movie and drinks and they were cool with that. save your money my dude.
 

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yea you dont need to take chicks out on dates. just invite them to your room for movies and drinks
 

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Yeah I feel like barely anyone goes on "dates" in college. You could go for icecream or something then bring her back to your place (I've done this with success).
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Yea... They just wanna have fun, hang out, drink, and ****. I made the SAME mistake with young girls back in the day. All they care about, at their emotionally maturity level (ie, practically non-existant), is excitement, partying, sex, "hot guys", etc.

Taking *****es on dates and being traditional never got me anywhere with youngins. They just wanted to hang out and ****. They werent all about the relationship gig... At least not in the traditional, healthy sense. All about the drama and excitement; not knowing their head from their ass; thinking infatuation and scattered emotions was love... Pining for players and BBs. You know the drill.

Not that going that route "hurt" anything, but it just delayed the process, and didnt actually "help" anything. When all was said and done, it was time-wasting and unnecessary.. And they werent even into it. They just wanted to **** and hang out, basically. Lots of wasted emotions back then.

This isnt time for all that love ****. They want to be charmed, aroused, swept off their feet, ****ed, and thrown out of windows. Probably in that order.

Those who try the hardest and give the most gain the least. So, while you're thinking you're making progress by courting them and being a gentleman by taking them out on dates and getting to know them - they're off ****ing some dude in the back of a van - whom they just met at a club, or dormroom, or abandoned crack house.

This is definitely time for fun and partying - not love and relationships.
 

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floydb25 said:
Yea... They just wanna have fun, hang out, drink, and ****. I made the SAME mistake with young girls back in the day. All they care about, at their emotionally maturity level (ie, practically non-existant), is excitement, partying, sex, "hot guys", etc.

Taking *****es on dates and being traditional never got me anywhere with youngins. They just wanted to hang out and ****. They werent all about the relationship gig... At least not in the traditional, healthy sense. All about the drama and excitement; not knowing their head from their ass; thinking infatuation and scattered emotions was love... Pining for players and BBs. You know the drill.

Not that going that route "hurt" anything, but it just delayed the process, and didnt actually "help" anything. When all was said and done, it was time-wasting and unnecessary.. And they werent even into it. They just wanted to **** and hang out, basically. Lots of wasted emotions back then.

This isnt time for all that love ****. They want to be charmed, aroused, swept off their feet, ****ed, and thrown out of windows. Probably in that order.

Those who try the hardest and give the most gain the least. So, while you're thinking you're making progress by courting them and being a gentleman by taking them out on dates and getting to know them - they're off ****ing some dude in the back of a van - whom they just met at a club, or dormroom, or abandoned crack house.

This is definitely time for fun and partying - not love and relationships.
Have to agree, i usually do a movie/out to the club/ice cream or whatever and then just end up driving in some random parking lot to bang them. They just wana hang out for a bit, do something, and then DO YOU!
 

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agree with the posts on this thread

never a good idea to take her out on a date in college
 

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so the best way to get a girl is to just take total advantage of her. I barely said 5 words to the girl I lost vcard to beforehand.
 

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Heh... You dont have to take advantage of anyone. Nor do you have to deceive or manipulate. This is what they want, respond to, and even set up. IME, women set up and instigate EVERYTHING - then act dumb and play innocent afterwards. As well as the standard anti-slut defenses - while STILL following through with what they originally designed (ie, to hang out and ****). If they didnt want it - they wouldnt do it. They lure themselves right into this ****... Never fails.

You're not raping or forcing anyone, here. And, as you can see, being the traditional gentleman courtship NG ain't getting you anywhere - because they're not into all that, and dont want it. Their actions are proving this, and they always speak louder than words. Always.

Most of what people say in respect to what they want is whatever sounds most appealing, appropriate, and socially acceptable. No wants to be viewed as a ***** - even if they are one - and will defend this **** to the bone. Yeah, they all want to get married and have kids - as they're trying to suck your **** at a party. Ha Ha.

Even when theyre *****ing about whatever they respond to... Its always done in a manner to save face, look innocent, etc.

Word.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Ringleader41 said:
I know plenty of guys banging girls and they haven't even taken them on a date yet. Yet, other guys are taking the same girl on dates and she goes back to banging the guy that doesn't take her out at the end of the night. This girl has been hooked on my friend for about a month and he told me he has never been on a date with her,
dating is for lame dudes and old dudes.... if a ho like you she will come to your house and F
 
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