Archetypes

[UK manc]

Hi, first post, although I've been around before years ago. It kinda feel like I need a "refresher course"..all the knowledge is there somewhere but struggling to apply it again.

In the UK there's a real common archetype bloke this decade that gets partnered up:
- 5'9" ish
- tattoos
- on and off gym (mostly off) so a bit of added muscle but poorly optimised and chubby
- looks like he needs a shower
- manual labourer
- using debt to get an Audi/BMW/Mercedes + more tattoos
- drinks every weekend, likely some drugs too
- always angry/aggressive
- untidy stubble or beard

I think I'm coming across a bit incongruous to a lot of women..

- 6'2"+ heavy weights 3-4x week
- very lean (you could say ripped)
- no tattoos
- laid back (probably too chilled)
- clean shave every 4 days
- no drink, smoking or drugs (the no booze is a big thing socially in UK)

It seems birds now expect a gym build to be associated with tattoos, "hard-living" and that whole aggressive gymtard persona.

Maybe I come across as married or cucked..dunno.

Hello anyway

 

[Mike32ct]

How is your hair? Assuming full hair…

Maybe stay clean shaven and no tats, but grow out your hair and get a longer, thicker more sexy hairstyle.

Be the tall “pretty boy” rather than the shorter edgy bad boy.

Your body sounds like it’s totally on point, so I would be thinking about hair and clothes.

 

[Westminster]

Hi, first post, although I've been around before years ago. It kinda feel like I need a "refresher course"..all the knowledge is there somewhere but struggling to apply it again.

In the UK there's a real common archetype bloke this decade that gets partnered up:
- 5'9" ish
- tattoos
- on and off gym (mostly off) so a bit of added muscle but poorly optimised and chubby
- looks like he needs a shower
- manual labourer
- using debt to get an Audi/BMW/Mercedes + more tattoos
- drinks every weekend, likely some drugs too
- always angry/aggressive
- untidy stubble or beard

I think I'm coming across a bit incongruous to a lot of women..

- 6'2"+ heavy weights 3-4x week
- very lean (you could say ripped)
- no tattoos
- laid back (probably too chilled)
- clean shave every 4 days
- no drink, smoking or drugs (the no booze is a big thing socially in UK)

It seems birds now expect a gym build to be associated with tattoos, "hard-living" and that whole aggressive gymtard persona.

Maybe I come across as married or cucked..dunno.

Hello anyway

I laughed out loud at your description of the archetypal Brit. It's so true.

I'm not as tall as you but I also live in the north of England and I'm in good nick, clean living, no tattoos or any of the other nonsense you mention, and somehow you just feel out of place nowadays. It's mad really!

ps. Welcome aboard.

 

[UK manc]

How is your hair? Assuming full hair…

Maybe stay clean shaven and no tats, but grow out your hair and get a longer, thicker more sexy hairstyle.

Be the tall “pretty boy” rather than the shorter edgy bad boy.

Your body sounds like it’s totally on point, so I would be thinking about hair and clothes.

Balding but not bald, so I use the closest clippers every three or four days. It then fades well into my (very short) stubble after one day of face shaving. Jason Statham ish I suppose. There's some greying too so the clippers and clean shaving hide that.

 

[zekko]

It seems birds now expect a gym build to be associated with tattoos, "hard-living" and that whole aggressive gymtard persona.
Maybe I come across as married or cucked..dunno.

Screw 'em. Be what you want. You may not attract as many, but you'll attract a higher quality woman.

 

[Arete]

I think I'm coming across a bit incongruous to a lot of women..

Very relatable. Sometimes it's like I'm the only big guy at the gym without tattoos and a chill personality. Depending on the person, I feel like I'm making wildly varying types of first impression. Ranging from "nice guy" to "dangerous." More often than not, it's an extreme of either.

To me, being muscular without all this wannabe stuff is the obvious choice in life.

I wonder if perhaps this archetype is not as attractive for average modern women as it should be. Like attracts like maybe? However, HB7 and upwards, especially if she had a good upbringing, finds these traits noticeably more interesting, as far as I can tell.

Balding but not bald, so I use the closest clippers every three or four days. It then fades well into my (very short) stubble after one day of face shaving. Jason Statham ish I suppose. There's some greying too so the clippers and clean shaving hide that.

I'm a natural who doesn't even do creatine and other supps. I'm not the most ripped guy and also not the most massive guy. But I got like 70-80% of both sides and also a hairline that I barely see anyone else at my age in the gym.

My jawline is also quite nice, cutting out salt and eating clean goes a long way, in my opinion. Salt and creatine make you appear bigger, sure. But everyone forgets the obvious part that it also makes the head "bigger" too.

 

[The Duke]

The fact that you start out comparing yourself to others is a concern. That's the first thing I would work on. It speaks volumes about who you are.

 

[plumber]

if you look good and are good, then the missing is opportunity. how is your list of male friends... are you in some social circles. try to help some of your friends in topics your good at. for example, teach your out of shape friend how to gym... teach your gym friends how to (whatever else your good at). provide value to others that has only small cost to you. this creates the view that your a leader. women love leaders.