"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Approaching girls VS Making yourself so good they approach you

lizardking82

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I mean, what is the point of approaching just random girls without getting any cues from them? I see PUA approaching literally everyone and I don't think it works like that. Why not work on yourself, physically, mentally, profesionally so that you can see girls staring at you and then you approach with confidence cause you got some.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I mean, what is the point of approaching just random girls without getting any cues from them? I see PUA approaching literally everyone and I don't think it works like that. Why not work on yourself, physically, mentally, profesionally so that you can see girls staring at you and then you approach with confidence cause you got some.
Most aren't going to approach the average looking guy regardless of how much you improve yourself, they just aren't wired that way. Women expect to be pursued.

However if something stands out about you, then you will likely get approached. I've got a buddy that is on the shorter side, but has a very attractive face and country dances very well. Women will approach him to dance all the time. He has gone home with many of these girls.
He won't get approached in other environments tho.

I used to show up at a bar wearing my motorcycle riding jacket and helmet and got approached often. It had nothing to do with how great I was or my physical attributes. It had everything to do with my motorcycle.

There is no point in approaching random girls with out any IOI's. I have a buddy that does this all the time. 9.5 times out of 10 he strikes out. His theory is, he isn't out anything. I always make solid eye contact, and wait for a smile. If I get that I usually approach.
 

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Chicks are spoiled. Let them do the work for a change.
 

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In 25 years of bar experience, I have only had one woman approach me. She turned around and faced me, sat on the bar, and hiked her skirt. Only problem was, I was on my way out of town, limited on time, and she looked older and worse than my grandmother…
True experience
 

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Gotta be extremely attractive to get approached Lizardking. No matter how big your muscles are.

Most guys here aren't that. Thats why we teach self improvement, charisma and approach.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I don't see a binary opposition between approach and non-approach. Rather, it's a continuum. At the one end you have the PUA types pin-balling through a mall approaching one hundred women in an hour. At the other is the complete geek at home on his computer 24/7.

In the middle of this spectrum you still have the healthy approach to approach. It often appears like cold approach, but there may be some subtle factors and extenuating circumstances at play... such as the IOI, mood, and situation etc.
 

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I mean, what is the point of approaching just random girls without getting any cues from them? I see PUA approaching literally everyone and I don't think it works like that. Why not work on yourself, physically, mentally, profesionally so that you can see girls staring at you and then you approach with confidence cause you got some.
From my experience both online and in person in various circles.........the ONLY women that approach guys are the ugly ones. The decent looking/hot looking women are not going to approach you and they might not even give any non-verbal "cues" to approach either.

So in a nutshell, if you see a chick you want to talk to, just go talk to her. Either one of four things will happen:

- You guys will have a good convo and a number is exchanged after it.

- You guys will have a good convo and no number is exchanged after it.

- You guys will have a bad convo or no convo (she blows you off), with no number exchanged after it.

- She completely embarrasses you and starts roasting you for approaching her.


Your results depends on the level of attraction you have, you targeting the right MARKET of women, and you targeting them at the right time.

* In terms of attraction, I've already discussed prior that you fix your looks, personality, and finances.

* In terms of the right market, let's face it, there are certain women we as guys individually do better with than other types. For me, I do much better with black women, minority women, and white women who "act black" or "has a good amount of black friends", versus just straight pure "white" women. So you should know your market.

* Then, you should be approaching them at the right time. Cold approaching is intrusive as hell in most cases, but it just depends. A chick might BLOW you off if you approach her at Wendy's, because she honestly might be trying to get the items she needs and get the hell out of there before her lunch break ends.
 
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