"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Approaching aint hard but... I'm starting to think escalating is too much work.

daygameguy

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ElStud said:
Approaching and talking to girls is easy for me. Damned easy. Easiest thing in the f*cking world. But I'm starting to think escalating with a girl is just too much work especially when you consider the outcome. What I mean for instance, is I walk around the college campus a lot and approach random girls. Now on paper "heavier" escalation sounds easy, but not in real life. Infact I'll run into situations where it'd damn hard to escalate.

Then on top of that, you've got girls who just won't let you escalate, like you'll try simple escalation and they'll reject. Then there are just those girls who'll be interested then go "blah blah blah i have to get going". And overall I'm starting to think escalating to a kiss is TOO MUCH work. I've heard assuming the escalation will work, works, but even then they'll sometimes reject. And overall it aint worth all that BS just to get a kiss.
Results of approaching girls and being successful:
1. More confidence, conversation skills, charisma added to personality, growth as a person.
2. Better looks - cuz obviously you work on them.
3. Carnal pleasures :D
4. Feeling successful and "happy" with your life, good social circle, success in other areas of your life as well.

Results of playing video games:
1. Momentary fun/comfort/pleasure
2. Long term bad effect on personality, life, emotions, etc.

The decision is all yours.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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In the end, I'm probably just going to stop the approaching thing. Honestly though, it's just pretty useless to me. Like I don't want sex THAT bad. I have proven to myself that I can approach almost any set and get interest from most of them. But seduction and approaching is just starting to seem pointless to me. Doing all this just to get something from a women seems like too much work. Especially when you consider that there are probably much better and more rewarding things in life than getting laid.
 

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Stop trying to get laid then. Just go out to have fun. Eventually you'll trip and just fall into a vagina.
 

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Wow guys, I'm impressed.

You realize that none of you have really helped the guy with what he asked for. Just yelled at him... not alpha guys, not at all. (especially the guy who said he'd punch him in real life. Not cool.)

Man, if escalating is feeling hard for you, your doing something wrong... and you're probably being shy I'm guessing. Next time you meet a girl, why not just play cute then ask her to kiss you? Heck, there's hundreds of articles on this man, and written by people who are pro's in the community.

(plus, avoid asking stuff like this here,[controversal] people seem to have a knee jerk response to being AFC, AFC, BURN THE AFC DEMON OUT OF THEM! Serously. :p)
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Miguel said:
Wow guys, I'm impressed.

You realize that none of you have really helped the guy with what he asked for. Just yelled at him... not alpha guys, not at all. (especially the guy who said he'd punch him in real life. Not cool.)

Man, if escalating is feeling hard for you, your doing something wrong... and you're probably being shy I'm guessing. Next time you meet a girl, why not just play cute then ask her to kiss you? Heck, there's hundreds of articles on this man, and written by people who are pro's in the community.

(plus, avoid asking stuff like this here,[controversal] people seem to have a knee jerk response to being AFC, AFC, BURN THE AFC DEMON OUT OF THEM! Serously. :p)
What in the name of fvck are you talking about? Go back and look through ElStud's thread history. I know it might be long and tedious because of all the stupid sh!t he posts, but you'll notice many of us have tried to help him, only to have him completely ignore us or make fun of us.

I love when people randomly drop into ElStud threads and say stuff like this.

The kid is a little dikwad and obviously a complete nerd in real life. He's a complete lost cause. He clearly has no social calibration. I'm starting to think he might be slow or mentally retarded.

Just now, I noticed that he gave me negative rep. What a little d-bag.

Seriously ElStud, what is your malfunction? You can't get laid at a major state university? Even a broken clock manages to get it right twice a day.
 
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ElStud, cut the fvcking crap.

Seriously, I've tried giving you advice for fvcking weeks, and after all that, you sit here and rationalize away the reason why you aren't failing. Yes, there's more important things in life than getting laid, but being ****ty with women is going to affect your standard of living.

Don't you want to know that when a hot girl walks by, you are capable of dating her/getting in her pants? Or would you rather level up your Yoshi character?

We've all been virgins, and it sucks. There's always that feeling of ineptitude when you're dealing with chicks. You just have to power through it, instead of making excuses like "I don't want sex that bad."

You and I both know that sex, and your lack thereof, crosses your mind every time you beat off, every time your friends talks about girls they hooked up with, and every time you go to a party and some girl is dressed slutty. Why not spare yourself the mental strain and actually lose your v-card.

ElStud, if I were given a video game controller and could plug it into your a$$hole and control you, I could probably get you laid in about a week, depending on how bad your appearance is. Since I can't do that, my only option is to give advice over this forum.

I'm going to make an ultimatum. I'm one of the last friends you have on this forum, because you're an extreme version of what I was like two years ago. You will provide the following:

-A picture of you in an everyday setting
-A field report written with excruciating detail. How you touched her, what were her reactions, what you said and how she responded, and everything that lead up to the #close or rejection.

If you provide both of these, and we offer advice both on your game and your appearance, you WILL get laid. If you make an excuse and/or don't provide these things, I will troll the sh!t out of your topics.

The fun times are over, ElStud. Either man up on here so we can help you, or just stop posting and sign up for a wold of warcraft account.
 

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Guys.. ElStud said it.. he dosent want to get laid. I dont know why any of you are helping a guy who dosent want any help...
 

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scottfall said:
Guys.. ElStud said it.. he dosent want to get laid. I dont know why any of you are helping a guy who dosent want any help...
He says a lot of sh*t cause hes full of sh*t. Cognitive dissonance is a b*tch, which explains why hes trying so hard to justify the face that he doesnt know how to attract girls. He doesnt wanna have sex? Yea right, its just that he CANT, and he knows it. Notice his excuses, hed rather play video games, hang out with friends, etc. In what way does hanging out with a girl interfere? Girls are suppose to be icing on cake if you will, which once again shows how he has the incorrect mindset. If he wasnt a virgin, saying something like that would make sense, but since he is...once again hes talking sh*t. The kids a joke, he knows it, i know it, yall know it, the girls he talks to know it, and im sure his parents know it. Judging by is behavior online, im sure hes twice as much of a d bag in person. He knows what hes missing.
 

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Virgin Justification

Virgin Justification.

That is what this thread is another example of. Virgin Justification is becoming a trend on SoSuave for some reason.

Examples of it include a guy, like ElStud, trying to rationalize that he is above getting laid, and that he subscribes to some higher level of courting.

Bullsh!t.

We all want to get laid. If you don't want to get laid, why the fvck are you posting on this forum?

It's not that you're choosing to not get laid; it's that you can't.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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i think u r right. lets just quit man
 

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Wow guys, I'm impressed.

You realize that none of you have really helped the guy with what he asked for. Just yelled at him... not alpha guys, not at all. (especially the guy who said he'd punch him in real life. Not cool.)
Ha, this seriously made me laugh.

I'm quite seriously expecting a new FR from ElStud within a week.

FR: Told girl i didn't want sex, she gave lots of interest.
 

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Pathgen said:
For straight men passing up women is almost impossible and very hard.
Not if you've got OCD, trust me.

I've been there with the whole "too much work for too little payoff, why bother" mindset, but eventually I admitted to myself that this was Virgin Justification on my part, pure and simple. because that's all it was. I was kidding myself, and I wasted far too much time doing so. Don't make the same mistake I did.

Esclation is quite difficult for me too. Though I know this is ludicrous and simply cannot be true, it seems like sex just doesn't happen in reality, like alien abductions or something. Pretty much every girl I know behaves as if sex is some offensive thing they want nothing to do with. Obviously this isn't the case, but it sure seems that way.
 
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