"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Anywhere to meet women online besides dating sites?

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Literally asking for a friend. He is in a relationship (living together but wants out at some point). In the meantime, he wants to meet quality women (older: like 35 and older) for friendship somewhere online (he doesn't get out much). He doesn't know where to go but online dating sites that require a picture. He doesn't want to post a picture anywhere. Anyone have any ideas? Are there chat rooms anymore? Discussion threads? I have no idea and don't know what to tell him.
 

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He doesn't want to post a picture anywhere.
Tell him to get over it and use Hinge or Seeking. The latter is probably best if he wants to avoid the possibility of his GFs friends seeing him. But if he wants out, then just get out already, why does he need to do it in secret?

The only viable place to meet women consistently is in communities like churches, sports clubs, social groups, etc. If he wants to do it online he's going to have to use photos. There are no "chat rooms" or anything like that to meet women. I did meet up with a girl from Reddit but that was pure chance and not something you can expect to happen. Hinge or Seeking (or maybe IG) are the best way to go.
 

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Tell him to get over it and use Hinge or Seeking. The latter is probably best if he wants to avoid the possibility of his GFs friends seeing him. But if he wants out, then just get out already, why does he need to do it in secret?

The only viable place to meet women consistently is in communities like churches, sports clubs, social groups, etc. If he wants to do it online he's going to have to use photos. There are no "chat rooms" or anything like that to meet women. I did meet up with a girl from Reddit but that was pure chance and not something you can expect to happen. Hinge or Seeking (or maybe IG) are the best way to go.
What is "seeking"? Is that an app? Is that the full name? I've never heard of it.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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There used to be a book called "Go Where The Fish Aren't". It talked about meeting women in other places other than dating websites (online).

So Forums, chat groups, Facebook Groups seem like the best options. However I am sure there are many more. Women will probably want a photo

Men and woman groups like: cooking, fitness, photography, DIY projects, Book clubs, music

I don't have any experience with this myself.
 
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Literally asking for a friend. He is in a relationship (living together but wants out at some point). In the meantime, he wants to meet quality women (older: like 35 and older) for friendship somewhere online (he doesn't get out much). He doesn't know where to go but online dating sites that require a picture. He doesn't want to post a picture anywhere. Anyone have any ideas? Are there chat rooms anymore? Discussion threads? I have no idea and don't know what to tell him.
Whole Foods. No, I'm not kidding
 

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Whole Foods.
Whole Foods is a decent grocery store for approaching. Some Whole Foods locations will be better than others for this. Some Whole Foods are suburban, married MILFs. If a Whole Foods is closer to a neighborhood that is mainly unmarried people, then it would be a lot of bougie 25-40 year old never married, childless women.

I have done approaches at multiple grocery store chains. Whole Foods hasn't resulted in the most dates for me personally (another chain has produced the most dates for me) but I can see how it would work. Picking up women at Whole Foods used to be talked about more online like 5-12 years ago as compared to now.
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Even better is Trader Joes or Target.

Whole Foods has an older demographic.
Let's also add here that one's mindset is vital. If a fella walks into a venue for the express purpose of snagging an easy piece of a-s, he'll either come across desperate and unattractive, or end up with something from the bottom of the barrel

It's much healthier to go about your day, doing things which enrich your existence, while viewing the acquisition of high-quality women as a perk
 

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Let's also add here that one's mindset is vital. If a fella walks into a venue for the express purpose of snagging an easy piece of a-s, he'll either come across desperate and unattractive, or end up with something from the bottom of the barrel

It's much healthier to go about your day, doing things which enrich your existence, while viewing the acquisition of high-quality women as a perk
Ofc, there's nothing more ridiculous than purposely going to a particular place just to talk to women. Trader Joe's is overrated af though Target is pretty decent actually.
 
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