"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Anyone work or live in saudi arabia?
- Thread starter eli77
- Start date
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Travel memoir21
Master Don Juan
He might have some interest in converting to Islam and getting a wife.
Man I wish Christianity has Islam's culture sometime, I mean I'm fine with my Christian beliefs.
But the Islamic culture is just fantastic to me, it's patriarchal, you're allowed to have 4 wives and you have arrange marriages where you get all the BS stuff about dating and courtship out of the way and just focus on finding a quality wife.
If only Christianity had Islam's culture here in America, we'd be a powerhouse again.
plumber
Master Don Juan
- Joined
- Jan 1, 2022
- Messages
- 1,023
- Reaction score
- 878
That's interesting. If guys have 4 wives, does that mean women outnumber men 4 to 1. Or does it mean 3 out of 4 guys have no women.
Scaramouche
Master Don Juan
As MDJ says "...You will be the most incelibate version of yourself over there".....Yeah all that and the soberest!
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
MatureDJ
Master Don Juan
- Joined
- Apr 30, 2006
- Messages
- 12,738
- Reaction score
- 5,156
4 wives for 1 man means 3 really pi33ed off men.
EyeBRollin
Master Don Juan
- Joined
- Oct 18, 2015
- Messages
- 10,536
- Reaction score
- 8,536
- Age
- 37
I declined his offer to mentor me. At the time I was suspicious of a guy that had two families. He had an Islamic wife and children in SA, and a Christian family in the USA (with grown children) from before he moved to SA. I found the whole thing sketchy.
Bokanovsky
Master Don Juan
- Joined
- Jul 7, 2012
- Messages
- 5,520
- Reaction score
- 5,698
Bokanovsky
Master Don Juan
- Joined
- Jul 7, 2012
- Messages
- 5,520
- Reaction score
- 5,698
He was also probably a closeted homosexual, like many men in Saudi Arabia, which may explain why he was so keen to "mentor" you. While islam treats homosexuality as a mortal sin, that only applies to open homosexuality. If you keep it on the DL and do it behind close doors with your cousin, the neighbor's kid, etc., it is accepted and tolerated.
I'm supposed to go there, just haven't had the time.
I have a friend working there and some of my team members travel back and forth to saudi.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
taiyuu_otoko
Master Don Juan
Yes. Angry incel suicide bombers.
BaronOfHair
Master Don Juan
- Joined
- Feb 14, 2024
- Messages
- 5,565
- Reaction score
- 3,041
- Age
- 37
So if Jimmy Saville had left Britian, and pitched both his literal and figurative tent in Riyadh rather than London, he'd likely be a venerated figure today
SpartanWarrior77
Master Don Juan
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
elaborate