Anyone think that online dating and IG is essentially a weak move?

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

I never trusted those ARC videos either, it was all staged.

What staged videos from ARC don't you trust, that you believe were staged?

I already know it's bullshiit..but we're gonna let it play out.

And he made a boatload from it and no doubt laughing all the way to the bank.

The game is sold, not told.

I mean come on whispering in some random chick's ear on line at Target (or wherever) that you want to suck her t*ts?

Please. Common sense.

"Let the woman know what you're really thinking".

Mode One.

Instead of beating around the bush, be honest and straight forward with her.

Makes sense to me.

Perfect sense.

 

[Sega Genesis]

I mean come on whispering in some random chick's ear on line at Target (or wherever) that you want to suck her t*ts?

Let the woman know what you're really thinking.

If you can talk straight sex with women using OLD, then you should be able to do it in person.

Privately while on a date, ok.

Publicly to a random women, NO

There are laws protecting people against public sexual harassment, I suggest you learn them before you find yourself locked up behind bars one day.

"Public sexual harassment involves unwanted, nonconsensual sexualized behavior - such as catcalling, leering or explicit sexual comments - that occurs in public spaces like shopping malls, grocery stores, streets, parks or public transit. It restricts people's freedom, creates unsafe environments, and violates personal boundaries.

Common Forms of Public Harassment:

Verbal: Catcalling, wolf-whistling, sexualized comments or noises, unwanted remarks about your body and appearance or a direct request for sexual favors or action.

Non-verbal:: Leering, staring, indecent exposure, or making explicit sexual gestures.

Physical: Groping, unwanted brushing against your body, following you, or blocking your path."

Don't be obtuse man, common sense. .I'm shocked this even needed explaining.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Privately while on a date, ok.

Publicly to a random women, NO

There are laws protecting people against public sexual harassment, I suggest you learn them before you find yourself locked up behind bars one day.

"Public sexual harassment involves unwanted, nonconsensual sexualized behavior - such as catcalling, leering or explicit sexual comments - that occurs in public spaces like shopping malls, grocery stores, streets, parks or public transit. It restricts people's freedom, creates unsafe environments, and violates personal boundaries.

Your replies are becoming more and more based on emotion, rather than logic.

Watch this..

You just defined public sexual harassment, right?

But just prior, you had stated that privately while on a date, those things are permissable...right?

So, here is the million dollar question, SG...

If I am on a private date with a woman, and I state my sexual intentions to her (or attempt to physically escalate things)...and this woman deems my behavior unwanted and undesirable (the same things you defined in public sexual harassment)...

Isn't this private sexual harassment?

It's the same shiit.

But wait, you just said that it's cool if it's done in private, while on a date.

See the inconsistent logic?

Common Forms of Public Harassment:

Verbal: Catcalling, wolf-whistling, sexualized comments or noises, unwanted remarks about your body and appearance or a direct request for sexual favors or action.

Non-verbal:: Leering, staring, indecent exposure, or making explicit sexual gestures.

Physical: Groping, unwanted brushing against your body, following you, or blocking your path."

Don't be obtuse man, common sense. .I'm shocked this even needed explaining.

First off..

Women don't mind sexual remarks, non sexual gestures, or physical contact from strangers.

However, they take issue with those things coming from strangers of whom they are NOT attracted to, or interested in.
.........

And second, I just want to point out another thing...as I stated on numerous occasions; there are at least 3 variants of Mode One (MO).

The variant that you (and critics of MO) criticize, is Mode One Hardcore (MOH)..which is the variant whereas explicit X-rated language is used to communicate sexual desires/intentions.

If you're not comfortable with MOH, you can always communicate your sexual desires to women, using non-explicit PG-13 language...and get the same point across.
.........

Third, ARC stated that he used MOH the most, because he doesn't simply just go up to women and say "I want to fuk you"...but he does so in a bold, seductive manner..being the "smooth muhfuka that he is" (his words).
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Fourth, my version of Mode One (Mode X), is communicated over the phone (during the first conversation) or via text...because unlike ARC, I don't emphasize voice seduction, but rather body seduction.
..........

Fifth and lastly..the only reason you're giving so much flak to Mode One, is because you know that, as a woman, Mode One won't allow you to garner all the free attention, validation, and non-sexual time that you are accustomed to getting from guys.

I reckon that's the real reason behind all this...emotion.

 

[Gamisch]

Cold approach is a losing strategy. Even if you " win" in my world its taking Ls;

How the feck do yall.even have time to be approaching women all.day long? There's an economical crisis looming, and yall ought to be working grinding and side hustling all day every day. Thats why I say adding new women to my " roster" also takes away time from conducting bizz. Im in a flow where clients bring me more clients ,taking away even more time. And I dont even care if a woman rather spends her time getting boned by losers.

You can either run behind the bees or set a honeytrap which will fill itself up while you extend your power.

Cold approaches ( and OLD as well for that matter) to ME is a huge waste of time; if I'm "successful " I spent even more time and resources on women ,leaving me stagnant. I gotta GROW . You only got 24 hours per day and time flies like crazy.

Unpopular opinion, I get it. But it works wonders for me though! Never had better quality women being as submissive and patient as nowadays!

 

[Dash Riprock]

A woman on OLD is single and actively looking for a partner by virtue of being on a dating app.

The majority of women on dating apps that are not bots are not looking for relationships or even dates for that matter. Most are on for the validation and rush they get from communicating with guys who are interested in them. This has been validated by two therapist friends of mine who, without breaking client confidentiality, told me they have many female clients who are on dating apps but never intend to actually meet up with anyone.

I haven't been on dating apps in about 2 years but I can confirm I'd get a fair number of attractive women to match and communicate but when it came time to actually ask them out they disappeared or never responded. This happened in about 80% of my OLD interactions.

OLD and social media dating are an effing waste of time you'll never get back. Try to meet organically or through friends.

 

[Sega Genesis]

If I am on a private date with a woman, and I state my sexual intentions to her (or attempt to physically escalate things)...and this woman deems my behavior unwanted and undesirable (the same things you defined in public sexual harassment)...

Isn't this private sexual harassment?

In this^^ scenario, some women might yes.

Personally for me, I don't consider it sexual harassment, privately or otherwise, but that's not the point.

Private sexual harassment is subjective and NOT against the LAW.

Public sexual harassment is clearly defined and IS against the law. For reasons stated in my previous and more.

Respectfully Venom please learn this.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Cold approach is a losing strategy. Even if you " win" in my world its taking Ls;

I read your entire post, and you didn't offer one reason as to why your^ claim is substantiated.

Just sayin shiit.

How the feck do yall.even have time to be approaching women all.day long?

Straw man fallacy; as you are attacking a position that NO ONE holds.

No one said anything about being out there and approaching women all day long.

There's an economical crisis looming, and yall ought to be working grinding and side hustling all day every day.

Some people can walk and chew gum at the same time.

Cold approaches ( and OLD as well for that matter) to ME is a huge waste of time; if I'm "successful " I spent even more time and resources on women ,leaving me stagnant. I gotta GROW . You only got 24 hours per day and time flies like crazy.

Unpopular opinion, I get it. But it works wonders for me though! Never had better quality women being as submissive and patient as nowadays!

Where are you getting your women from?

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

in this^^ scenario, some women might yes.

Personally for me, I don't consider it sexual harassment, privately or otherwise, but that's not the point.

Private sexual harassment is NOT against the LAW, public sexual harassment IS. For reasons stated in my previous and more.

Respectfully Venom please learn this.

So, according to the law of the land; it is permissable to sexually harass women in private...but prohibited to sexually harass women, in public?

Ok, SG.

Ok.

 

[Sega Genesis]

To add Venom, I have already told you I don't take offense to a man I am talking to being direct and stating what he wants sexually. Mode One. Some women might, I dont.

I simply end the interaction and walk away.

If a random man whispered an explicit sexual comment in my ear while on line at the grocery like in some of ARC's videos, I'd think it was inappropriate but would brush it off and walk away.

However as I said, under the law as written and defined, that IS considered public sexual harassment and there are women who would report it regardless of whether she thought he was good looking or not.

Your problem is in addition to not understanding the LAW, you are viewing all this from a man's frame assuming her panties get soaked from the mere sight of you for two seconds. Equivalent to a man getting a boner/hard on when seeing a beautiful woman

That is not how sexual attraction works for many women.

Nuff said.

 

[Gamisch]

I read your entire post, and you didn't offer one reason as to why your^ claim is substantiated.

Just sayin shiit.



Straw man fallacy; as you are attacking a position that NO ONE holds.

No one said anything about being out there and approaching women all day long.



Some people can walk and chew gum at the same time.



Where are you getting your women from?

Yet you feel triggered.

And you know why? Because low value men indulge in cold approach. Thats why you feel triggered, when your name isnt even mentioned. You inherently also know that you lower yourself to the lowest position possible and thats what you communicate to women as well..that you dont have anything going on in your life thus the most valuable thing you cam achieve is forcing interaction. And apparently your self worth is also nothing extraordinary, thus you dont feel like you embarrassing yourself.

And hey! I DONT BLAME YOU! There's a reason why people in 3rd world shyteholes got some many kids..if you both have nothing going on, might as well feck like rabbits!

Do you think a man of high value, who got a lot going on and also knows about female nature gonna roam the streets looking for strangers to approach? Ofcourse not! But you won't ever understand this until you actually put your mind on BECOMING that dude. Once you do, you will analyse your own behaviour and conclude that some shyte gotta go. One of those ( to me) was standing on the block chasing tail ( and thats ingrained in my original culture).

Low water seeks low water, thus the quality of women you get from this approach will mostly be low quality women. These will be most receptive to CO.

And I'll repeat it once more for the people in the back of the class; I get women by doing NOTHING..I just do me. Go about my day , work my azz off ,stained working clothes and boom somehow a woman positions herself in front of me . No OLD, no CO, no social circle, not going out. Again, this is MY story and this isn't for anyone.. but why would I change this if I 1.get solid p00sy and 2. Grow my bizz hard like weed.

To YOU this is sh1t , because YOU cant phantom ( venom) this is true.

There's levels to this my friend.

 

[Cheeky_James]

Um, not so fast.

This^ sentiment would hold more weight, if you'd actually approach the woman even if no one else is around.

But since you wouldn't approach her, regardless of who else is around; then using the "but other people may be around" copout is just a lame, chicken-sh!t excuse to cover up the fact that you are simply just afraid to approach women...regardless of the circumstances.

Nice try, though.



This is fallacious.

We are talking about the method by which you were able to get the women...not what kinkiness occurs after you get them.

The two don't correlate.

No, he didn't. There are at least 3 variations of Mode One, and they all have time-max parameters.



This is a non sequitur.

P1: If there is no video of X, X didn't happen.
P2: There is no video of X.
Conclusion: Therefore, X didn't happen.

The conclusion doesn't follow from the premises...as P1 is false.

Your reasoning is illogical; is what I am trying to say.



If you can talk straight sex with women using OLD, then you should be able to do it in person.

The only difference is a damn phone/computer screen.

Verbal cowards.

I can tell there’s a whole world of kinky sh1t someones never seen or experienced

question - how could a guy tell by observing a group of random women walking around in public.. which one of them is the *really* kinky one?

ARC claims he got a BJ from a random chick in a supermarket isle. Sure he did
Hey, maybe that’s how it goes down in Gary, Indiana.

ARC is a grifter.
His good friend David X was also a known grifter and conman. They were just jumping in on the PUA racket at that time.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

To add Venom, I have already told you I don't take offense to a man I am talking to being direct and stating what he wants sexually. Mode One. Some women might, I dont.

I simply end the interaction and walk away.

If a random man whispered an explicit sexual comment in my ear while on line at the grocery like in some of ARC's videos, I'd think it was inappropriate but would brush it off and walk away.

Well again, for the umpteenth time; your reaction towards the man, is dictated by your attraction towards the man.

If the man is highly physically attractive and highly sexually appealing in your eyes, I do not believe you'd react this way.

But if he isn't, of course you wouldn't entertain him, nor the idea or sleeping with him...and you may even report him.

However as I said, under the law as written and defined, that IS considered public sexual harassment and there are women who would report it regardless of whether she thought he was good looking or not.

Anyways..like I said; women don't report guys that they deem sexually appealing.

"I mean sure, he is hot, and I would definitely jump his bones...but I'm reporting him to HR, because I don't appreciate him expressing to me that he wants to have sex with me."

That^ shiit doesn't even sound right.

That is because the words (he's hot and I would jump his bones), isn't in alignment with the actions (reporting him to HR).

There is discontinuity...and valid reasoning doesn't lack continuity.

So I guess the reasoning ain't too damn valid, after all.

Your problem is in addition to not understanding the LAW, you are viewing all this from a man's frame assuming her panties get soaked from the mere sight of you for two seconds. Equivalent to a man getting a boner/hard on when seeing a beautiful woman

That is not how sexual attraction works for many women.

Nuff said.

I understand female nature..and sexual duplicity.

But keep doing yo thang though, SG.

Keep scamming these guys for dates, validation, and non sexual attention.

 

[plumber]

For all of you cry babies crying about OLD, there are men cleaning it up. Which person would you rather be, the loser or winner?

sure, there is always a winners circle for anything. its always a much smaller group than the 'losers' circle.

 

[plumber]

ARC claims he got a BJ from a random chick in a supermarket isle. Sure he did
Hey, maybe that’s how it goes down in Gary, Indiana.

that place has different rules.....

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

I can tell there’s a whole world of kinky sh1t someones never seen or experienced

Im not into kinky shiit.

question - how could a guy tell by observing a group of random women walking around in public.. which one of them is the *really* kinky one?

How did man find out that two sticks running together, could spark a flame?

It's called; discovery.

ARC claims he got a BJ from a random chick in a supermarket isle. Sure he did

That was a rare and extreme example.

Just because a random woman would never give YOU a BJ in a supermarket, doesn't mean she won't give it to a man she is actually highly attracted towards.

No need to discredit him because you can't relate or share such experiences.

Hey, maybe that’s how it goes down in Gary, Indiana.

I guess I'm on the next flight to Gary, then.

ARC is a grifter.
His good friend David X was also a known grifter and conman. They were just jumping in on the PUA racket at that time.

Hmm.

The man said out of his own mouth, on numerous occasions, that Mode One isn't a some magical concept or method that will guarantee men will get laid.

Well, there goes your disparaging "grifter" theory...down the toilet.

But what he did guarantee, is that Mode One philosophy will prevent men from wasting their time/money on low interest women.

Which is what it does, and why it was created.

 

[plumber]

many women on old are in some sort of LTR. same for many men. its very safe to be a fake on OLD, although harder to do with the additional verifications. still can and is done often.

being on OLD does not mean honest, good, kind, single.

of note, truly high quality (good looking, kind, assertive, smart & wise) will always have a local line ready for them. both men and women.

so.. oh.. i don't have a line forming so i should fake some improvement and go on OLD to get what I want. both men and women do it, and do it a lot. maybe 60-80 percent of OLD. good looking men and women will then get a line on OLD. how they manage that is a skillset.....

 

[Solomon]

The majority of women on dating apps that are not bots are not looking for relationships or even dates for that matter. Most are on for the validation and rush they get from communicating with guys who are interested in them. This has been validated by two therapist friends of mine who, without breaking client confidentiality, told me they have many female clients who are on dating apps but never intend to actually meet up with anyone.

I haven't been on dating apps in about 2 years but I can confirm I'd get a fair number of attractive women to match and communicate but when it came time to actually ask them out they disappeared or never responded. This happened in about 80% of my OLD interactions.

OLD and social media dating are an effing waste of time you'll never get back. Try to meet organically or through friends.

This is spot on, also, the amount of women who have a dude(s) already and are looking to add to their "Roster" or looking to see if they can possibly upgrade.

 

[Manure Spherian]

In my view, you take the vast majority of men out there and you put them in a catalog, you will get the exact same things.

1) Men boasting about their money and their job titles
2) Men posting pictures of themselves in order to show their cars, watches, and lifestyle
3) Men clearly telegraphing how badly they want to get laid or be in a relationship
4) Men revealing tons of information about themselves without even getting a date
5) Excessive smiling

To me I look at this and I just think everything about it signals weakness, desperation, low self worth, and lack of mystery. None of these men really have any "edge", they are just copies of each other. Is it no surprise that online dating is horrible?

Here’s who I know it worked for:
1. Me, married with kids from it. I also accrued a hefty amount of sexual experiences from it before marriage.
2. Cousin #1: married with kids from it.
3. Cousin #2: married with kids from it.
3. Cousin #3: serious boyfriend from it, who likely will propose to her.
4. Friend #1: second wife from it.
5. Friend #2: married with a kid from it, divorced, and then met wife #2 with whom he has a second kid.

IF desperation, weakness, and low self worth” lead to the above, we’ll take it.