Is there anyone else here who is stuck with the wrong type of babyface meaning round and there just isn't anything you can do about it no matter how much you work out or lose weight? Unfortunately I'm 30 years old and I'm in that boat. I'm 5'8" 175 lbs so that doesn't help either though I work out 3 times a week and I'm in good shape. Whenever I try to flirt with women in a sexual way at a bar or club, they just treat me like I'm some creep though I'm not a bad looking guy. Even younger women in their early 20's just tell me that I look young even with facial hair and I'm never told that I look attractive. I also have problems with people around my age talking down to me wherever I go with the "hey buddy", "hey boss" etc comments. Does anyone else have the same dilemma?