"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Anyone ever dated an ex's best friend and she ended it because she's feeling guilty?

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Hi, just want to share a story and seeking for people with similar experience.

So, I was seeing this girl for about 4 months. Since the beginning, she planned to tell her best friend about this but just hadn't had the courage so she was kinda stalling, waiting for the right moment, and just went along with me. But she did say, "I can't promise you anything."

Then in the last month of our "relationship" I started to escalate things. Apparently she wasn't too enthusiastic about this and started to pull away and being distant for a couple of days. She told me that she didn't want to get too serious before she cleared this with her best friend. I said okay, and I started to pull back too.

A week later, she dropped the bomb. She said she couldn't continue with me because she just didn't feel right about us. Even if the best friend had given her approval, she was sure their friendship would be awkward.

Of course I was disappointed, thought she chickened out. I even kinda felt I had been strung along. Other possibilities also popped up on my mind, like there's somebody else or her IL dropped. But I didn't say any of this to her, of course. I just said, "Well, if that's what you want I won't argue." When she asked, "We're still friends, right?" I spontaneously answered, "You bet." Maybe that's AFC but doesn't matter because now I'm NC-ing her anyway.

I also regret my decision to escalate things. Had I take it slower, maybe I'm still seeing her now.

Any comments are welcome :)
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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4 months and she responds negatively to making moves on her? Sorry man you waited way too long.

I've gone on date with girls who were friends with girls that I had previously dated. One of them got a phone call from my ex mid-date and I could hear her saying nasty stuff to her on the phone. Chicks are cruel.

Nothing wrong with staying friends with the girl though. Just don't be best friends with her. Being around a girl all the time only to have her not be your girlfriend can get annoying. They'll CB you every chance they get.
 

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Alex DeLarge said:
4 months and she responds negatively to making moves on her? Sorry man you waited way too long.
I don't know what you mean by making moves but what I mean by "escalate things" isn't physical. I mean hinting at the future/exclusivity.
 
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There's a good saying that I always adhere to in situations like this "never sh*t where you eat".
 

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Fela Kuti said:
I don't know what you mean by making moves but what I mean by "escalate things" isn't physical. I mean hinting at the future/exclusivity.
Sorry I misinterpreted you man. Always let her hint at exclusivity first. If she doesn't want it, then you have a pretty much win win situation. Sex and no commitment!

These situations will almost always eventually turn exclusive though.. Unless she's a real dirty wh0re! lol
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Fela Kuti said:
Any comments are welcome :)
IMHO, her pulling back most probably has very little to do with her friend.

Girls will work these things out when they are really interested. That's why see was seeing you for 4 months behind her 'best friend's' back.

It probably would help what do you exactly mean by 'escalate'; but judging by some clues in your post I'd say that acting AFC is the real culprit.
 

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tafakna said:
IMHO, her pulling back most probably has very little to do with her friend.

Girls will work these things out when they are really interested. That's why see was seeing you for 4 months behind her 'best friend's' back.
Exactly.

When the attraction is there, the woman will justify all sorts of terrible things to stay with you. Married. Fugitive. Abusive. Broke. These are all things that we've seen or read about women overlooking to keep the man they want.

She's not breaking up out of "guilt". Either she found something new, or she lost her attraction to you.

It probably would help what do you exactly mean by 'escalate'; but judging by some clues in your post I'd say that acting AFC is the real culprit.
Agreed.

She probably wanted something light and casual, and this guy was dropping hints about wanting something serious.
 
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