FlexpertHamilton
Master Don Juan
wdym? I thought average men were basically invisible to women?Tbh the average man might as well copy paste your post.
wdym? I thought average men were basically invisible to women?Tbh the average man might as well copy paste your post.
I mean that average shouldn't be confused with BELOW average. Imo your description about being invisible is about them .wdym? I thought average men were basically invisible to women?
Bro average men are hardly getting any matches let alone numbersI mean that average should be confused with BELOW average. Imo your description about being invisible is about them .
Average men( smv 5/6 - 7,5 range) all having your experience now. They struggle, somehow knowing they should be able to get better results. They are still visible, but things won't be easy.
Below average on the other hand = Nada.
Average doesn't have to be bad.Bro average men are hardly getting any matches let alone numbers
I present myself as having status and money with a fake job and immaculate pics in lavish locations (for instance, a fancy Hotel that many women believe is my home), though in reality I don't possess either; but, they out know either way. However, and my wit/charisma/frame is well above average. I would consider myself in top 20% at the very least probably 10%, and I have a couple friends who are easily in the top 10%, one of which may very well be in the top 1%, and even he tacilty admits to things getting worse as of late.
Most average men have not had sex within last few years, if at all, and from what I hear, they hardly get any matches at all. I believe this trend is effecting every man except for the top .001%> ie 6'3, TRT, 7-8 figures, rizz, witt, model looks.. in which case, things are getting easier for them.
lol really?yeah and recently Bumble made a huge change in which it no longer requires women to make the first move, they were saying it is too much work or a burden? well welcome to the world of being a guy, look at what we guys, men, have always been doing
I have been in droughts before where I would find a quick Slumpbuster (4) when those girls started demanding dates, I knew the game was wrap lol.In my case, the quantity of matches hasn't declined, but the quality. Unbelievable toxicity, delusion, entitlement, narcissism, and other bv****. I recentely had a girl flake on me THREE TIMES IN A ROW. And she wasn't even that attractive, maybe a 7 at best. And yes, I ghosted her after, and had talked to other women in the mean time, I didn't even realize she had flaked 3 times until I looked through our texts.
Anyway, women are honestly intolerable for me now. I only want to **** the 16-18 yr olds that give me IOIs eyes at the gym or the beach, no other women is even appealing to me, especially not the "career empowered educated feminist" +25 types who make me fvcking sick.
I cannot even imagine what the "average" men are going through now.
mmmh Snapchat being a disruptor? never thought about that but it makes sense. People use facebook dating, and if you did snapchat dating and localize it, it could actually explode.OLD has proven to be an extremely difficult market for companies to reach profitability in. Bumble Inc. (also parent of Badoo) is down 84% since it's IPO a few years back and MTCH (parent company for Tinder, Hinge, Match.com, POF, and many others) is down about 68% since IPO. With all of the anecdotal evidence in this thread, these companies had better figure out how to right the ship, and relatively fast, or they'll end up being dismantled by private equity sooner rather than later. MTCH currently has a net negative equity position, and is hemorrhaging cash on debt service, not a sustainable path.
I think the financial disasters these businesses have proven to be over the last few years is the key reason we haven't seen a viable large scale competitor enter in quite some time. Personally I think if someone were to create a platform that required all female users to pay say $1.99 per month and all male users were required to pay say $9.99 a month, you'd rid the platform of a lot of the drawbacks currently existing. It would be very tough to pull off mostly because you'd have to convince enough women that it's in their own interest to pay anything at all for the service, which might not be scalable.
I actually think the company in the best position to enter the OLD space is Snapchat, who has had its own financial struggles. They could embed a swipe-app type section to their already existing and popular app, ensuring a pre-built user base and a communication platform people are comfortable with.
It seems that many women use dating apps as a kind of ego boost of last resort. If their instagram posts aren't getting enough likes, they go on the swipe apps. Getting matches is not hard but most of them are "junk matches" - i.e. women who never respond to the first text (or let the match expire if it's bumble).Totally agree with you women have become more low effort and entitled on these apps, at least if you gonna be a ***** make it worth my time
They use these apps to advert their SC actuallymmmh Snapchat being a disruptor? never thought about that but it makes sense. People use facebook dating, and if you did snapchat dating and localize it, it could actually explode.
Just a way for women to strike preemptively - because they know they are getting pumped and dumped in short order. Have to set up the narrative properly...A favourite female quote I see en masse now now is " he has no chat "![]()