Any woman over the age of 25 needs to give you a good reason on why she is still single

[CornbreadFed]

That should be the first question answered if you plan on taking any woman seriously. If she fails then put her in the ONS, FB category and let it rot it out. Fair or extreme?

 

[SW15]

I like the basis of your idea. We seem to have commonality in our viewpoints but I think we see the implementation of the idea differently.

I think it is possible to have a girlfriend relationship with a woman 25+. I think there are women 25+ who could make quality, exclusive for extended periods of time but wouldn't be good options for a marriage. A committed, non-marital relationship is somewhat serious.

There's a lot of subjectivity on a good reason why she's single.

I don't think your idea will get implemented in the real world by many men.

We agree on the idea that 30s-40s men are often pussie beggars who will get into LTRs and marry 30s-40s women. While most of these pussie beggar 30s-40s males are beta males with blue pill ideologies, they aren't the only 30s-40s men who do this.

Red pill ideology men in that age will also date women in their 30s-40s. They might not marry one as easily or even at all, but plenty of red pill men are dating women 30+.

 

[CornbreadFed]

We agree on the idea that 30s-40s men are often pussie beggars who will get into LTRs and marry 30s-40s women. While most of these pussie beggar 30s-40s males are beta males with blue pill ideologies, they aren't the only 30s-40s men who do this.

They are because these women are having sex with someone. I live next to a post wall whale in her 40s and she always has a boyfriend around. Her current one is a bodybuilder bro type you would see preaching on a manosphere channel.

 

[SW15]

They are because these women are having sex with someone. I live next to a post wall whale in her 40s and she always has a boyfriend around.

Most women can find sex and even committed boyfriends easily.

If an overweight woman in her 40s has no issues finding boyfriends, then imagine what it must be like for a fit, 30 year old woman to find sex or a boyfriend.

Does that overweight woman in her 40s have children?

 

[CornbreadFed]

Most women can find sex and even committed boyfriends easily.

If an overweight woman in her 40s has no issues finding boyfriends, then imagine what it must be like for a fit, 30 year old woman to find sex or a boyfriend.

Does that overweight woman in her 40s have children?

Nope lol. She is overweight, a Karen, and has that raspy party sucked a lot of dvcks voice.

 

[SW15]

Does that overweight woman in her 40s have children?

Nope lol. She is overweight, a Karen, and has that raspy party sucked a lot of dvcks voice.

Here's a situation of a childless woman who is borderline Gen X/Millennial (the oldest Millennials turn 44 in 2025). If she's an early Millennial, it's more common for those women to be childless. However, in 2025, most women born between 1981-1985 have children.

Childless women in their 30s-40s are popular with childless men in the same age range. There's a definite niche for childless women.

This is a woman who has been riding the penis carousel for over 20 years. 20 years ago, there's a good chance that she wasn't overweight. It's likely her notch count is 40+, just like her age.

A physically fit woman born between 1981-1985 is going to have plenty of options in the sexual marketplace. There are more men near her age who are childless than women in her age range who are childless.

 

[GoodMan32]

I've heard a similar phenomenon exists for men, only the age threshold for men doesn't come as early as 25.

What I've heard is: If a man is pushing 40, yet never married, it raises red flags to a woman.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Childless women in their 30s-40s are popular with childless men in the same age range. There's a definite niche for childless women.

Yeah I don't think they have any kids. They are definitely the bachelor older men types the manosphere used to idolize back in the day.

I've heard a similar phenomenon exists for men, only the age threshold for men doesn't come as early as 25.

What I've heard is: If a man is pushing 40, yet never married, it raises red flags to a woman.

Men have more leeway because they more standards to jump over than women.

 

[Smok1nAce]

Men under 35 in 2025 aren't the ***** beggars like boomers, x'ers and older millennials are. Yes there are but lots of these dudes will not settle and marry these modern women.

I think this is the first generation of men (genz and 1990s millennials) who are standing up in droves to the onslaught of horrible women by simply letting them have their cake and eat it to. Its the first kids that hit puberty with high speed pron.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Men under 35 in 2025 aren't the ***** beggars like boomers, x'ers and older millennials are. Yes there are but lots of these dudes will not settle and marry these modern women.

The same men dumping their savings and paychecks on onlyfans?

 

[SW15]

Its the first kids that hit puberty with high speed pron.

High speed internet became more common in households in the 2000s. 1980s born Millennials had access to higher speed often before age 20. They might not have started puberty with high speed porn at home.

For most male around my age (think 1982-1985 births), it wasn't difficult to see porn online earlier in life.

The 1990-2000 born males had even easier access to porn than 1982-1985 born males.

Men under 35 in 2025 aren't the ***** beggars like boomers, x'ers and older millennials are. Yes there are but lots of these dudes will not settle and marry these modern women.

I think most of the 1990s born Millennial and early Gen Z's will end up getting married at some point in life.

Most of my contacts are 1980s born Millennials and the majority of those contact got married at some point in the 2010s. I had a few contacts that got married in the late 2000s and a few laggard contacts that got married in the 2020s decade. 2024 was the first year in a long time where no friends or somewhat well known acquaintances got married. I know one female in my apartment complex getting married in 2025. She likely counts as an acquaintance but she's even a weaker acquaintance. She is a 1990s birth too.

I think there's also plenty of thirsty men/simps who were born between 1990-1999.

What I've heard is: If a man is pushing 40, yet never married, it raises red flags to a woman.

Men have more leeway because they more standards to jump over than women.

A never married man has more leeway. I have heard the same thing that men in their late 30s/early 40s who are never married can be considered red flags.

I think that stigma is lessening somewhat because there are enough women who reach their mid to late 30s as never married and childless women in bigger cities.

 

[Smok1nAce]

The same men dumping their savings and paychecks on onlyfans?

the people cashing out on those sites are much older men.

yes there are still simps in the age bracket probably worse simps then ever before but lots of men are waking up to women's behavior. For the last decade we've seen true female nature on full display when most these men where coming up and naturally just like every other generation of men had to earn their stripes.

Before the internet when a man hit his 30s after earning his stripes, women could easily fool them, thats not the case anymore. Add in these women are 10X worse then then women pre social media its become the perfect storm. Then add in the state of the economy.

Its why where seeing a rise in AI gf and robots. These things aren't being made by some 15 year old in his basement these are from men.

 

[CornbreadFed]

A never married man has more leeway. I have heard the same thing that men in their late 30s/early 40s who are never married can be considered red flags.

I have been in a LTR for a while and I have considered making a topic on this subject. I am considering distancing from my perpetually single friends not because I envy them but because there tend to be conflicting issues. I never got why older bachelor men were considered red flags when I was in my twenties, but now I am starting to see why societies distance themselves from them. Most of the time it is Peter Pan Syndrome, so if a man can bypass that and remain disciplined then he is fine. I think I will tailor the topic around how to not be the menace to society bachelor male because I respect men for any ultimate decision they choose to make.

Before the internet when a man hit his 30s after earning his stripes, women could easily fool them, thats not the case anymore. Add in these women are 10X worse then then women pre social media its become the perfect storm. Then add in the state of the economy.

Yeah you are right lol.

 

[Mike32ct]

A never married man has more leeway. I have heard the same thing that men in their late 30s/early 40s who are never married can be considered red flags.

I have no studies to back this up. Just an observation and gut feeling.

It does appear that, all else being equal (height, hair and $), for over 40 guys, the divorced guy has an SMV edge over the single never married guy.

 

[SW15]

I am considering distancing from my perpetually single friends not because I envy them but because there tend to be conflicting issues.

By single, are you referring to unmarried or unmarried and unattached?

My sense is that you are referring to the unmarried AND unattached men.

I have seen my relationships with my married male friends deteriorate over time, regardless of my attachment status at any given moment.

The least deterioration happened with the married male friends who remained childless in their marriages.

I never got why older bachelor men were considered red flags when I was in my twenties, but now I am starting to see why societies distance themselves from them.

I have felt some of this from mainstream culture as I have gotten past age 35.

Mainstream culture does try to distance itself from 35+ never married and childless men. While it might be milder than in the past, it still happens to some degree.

It does appear that, all else being equal (height, hair and $), for over 40 guys, the divorced guy has an SMV edge over the single never married guy.

I would agree with this in a narrow way based on the way it is phrased. A lot of women prefer divorced men on the surface because it is a form of social proof. However, that advantage can be erased by some past baggage.

The other ways that this advantage can be erased is through what Rollo Tomassi would call "money, muscles, and game". If the never married has better looks, more charisma, and more money/status than the divorced man, he will have an advantage. This will also give some stronger social proof as he will have a good past notch count and even the experience of past failed LTRs.

 

[CornbreadFed]

By single, are you referring to unmarried or unmarried and unattached?

My sense is that you are referring to the unmarried AND unattached men.

I have seen my relationships with my married male friends deteriorate over time, regardless of my attachment status at any given moment.

The least deterioration happened with the married male friends who remained childless in their marriages.

I will just make the topic lol, I think it will be beneficial.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Women think this way too. I was dating a coworker who was in her early twenties and I was a decade older. We had just started dating. She asked me ‘what is wrong with you that you’re not married?’ I got angry and shut her down. She called me up later in tears and apologized.
She wound up being my longest LTR and we almost got hitched. We’re still friends today.

 

[Clockwerk50]

I would agree with this in a narrow way based on the way it is phrased. A lot of women prefer divorced men on the surface because it is a form of social proof. However, that advantage can be erased by some past baggage.

The other ways that this advantage can be erased is through what Rollo Tomassi would call "money, muscles, and game". If the never married has better looks, more charisma, and more money/status than the divorced man, he will have an advantage. This will also give some stronger social proof as he will have a good past notch count and even the experience of past failed LTRs.

The divorced man may have an advantage, since he has already committed once, there is a likelihood he will commit again. In contrast, the single, never-married man may be less likely to commit, or even if he did want to, the women he dated might not have been interested in his commitment. Some of these men are often referred to as “serial daters.”

Women are more likely to play the odds, favoring men who have already demonstrated the capacity for long-term commitment.

 

[pipeman84]

It does appear that, all else being equal (height, hair and $), for over 40 guys, the divorced guy has an SMV edge over the single never married guy.

The divorced man may have an advantage, since he has already committed once, there is a likelihood he will commit again. In contrast, the single, never-married man may be less likely to commit, or even if he did want to, the women he dated might not have been interested in his commitment. Some of these men are often referred to as “serial daters.”

Women are more likely to play the odds, favoring men who have already demonstrated the capacity for long-term commitment.

A divorced man carries baggage, has broken the marriage vows, has demonstrated poor judgement in picking his wife.
How the heck is this increasing his SMV in the eyes of any sane woman who doesn't have a truckload of baggage herself?

 

[BackInTheGame78]